On Jul 21, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Janko Mivšek wrote:
Dear all,
I remember well my first impression with Squeak a year or so ago and
all troubles I had then and have them actually still.
Yes, it is a look&feel problem. And more feel than look. Look are
fonts etc. while feel are menus, basic window handling, mouse
buttons, controls behaving as closer to target OS as user is
accustomized of, user interface consistency and behavior as
expected, etc.
I therefore propose to start with "feel" part of user experience
first and my priority would be:
- swapMouseButtons preset depending on target OS (this one is
probably the most annoying thing for newcomers!)
- window controls (minimize/maximize, close) and their order
more in line with mainstream rules
- better menus as Adrian proposed
- more overall consistency of menus (for instance: inspect/explore
always on the same place in menu: or on the top or on the bottom)
- merging inspector into explorer and having only Inspect
- ctrl-mouse left behavior = select! (also very annoying one!)
- do we really need those window controls, coming up with ctrl-left
mouse? (rotate etc? halos?)
Yes I always wanted to disable them.
Those feel troubles I have are on Linux and mostly the same on
Windows but are probably different on Mac.
Best regards
Janko
Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to get your opinion about how we could improve the GUI. I
believe that even a few small changes will make a significant
difference, especially for new people that come to Pharo. Just the
cleaned up world menu is such a relief...
Here a three suggestions:
Better fonts
----------------
I think the current code font is not a good one and it is too small
(for today's screen resolutions). I like for example the font used
in TextMate, which is Monaco 12, a monotype font. The page http://www.lowing.org/fonts/
gives some samples for good code fonts. I've tried out the other
fonts in the Pharo image like the BitstreamVeraSansMono but they
are all very blurry. Just not good enough. I'm not a font expert,
so I don't know what the options for a better font are.
Better menus
-------------------------------
Current problems:
- bad organization menus only work when you have learned where
something is located
- duplicated entries e.g., Appearance is both in the top level
world menu and in the submenu Help
- useless entries e.g., set font, set style etc. in the
context menu are useless since code is never styled
- defective entries: e.g., "Make project link" in the context
menu does not work
Larger windows
-------------------------------
The default size of windows is usually too small. Often, after
opening a window I have to resize it. For example the hierarchy
browser shows only the 5 first classes.
Any other ideas what could be improved in the short term? I'm
looking for stuff that we can do now without having to rewrite the
whole system...
Cheers,
Adrian
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