Damien, Stef,

I _think_ what I would want for a starting point is something like Damien's web 
image, followed by a script that gets the latest of a few things, specific 
versions of others, and then loads a bunch of .cs or other files for my code.

Damien, I suspect you put a lot of work into preparing your images, so please 
do not view this as anything other than gratitude driving some suggestions.  
With proper selection of browser and (sorry<g>) deactivating eCompletion, I 
very much enjoy your web image as a starting point.  Whether I continue using 
it will depend on how hard it is to install Polymorph and the RB vs. Seaside 
and friends.  Call me demanding, I want it all :)  Installer can probably 
(either now or with some refinement) reduce Polymorph (which appears to be on 
its way into the Pharo base anyway???) and Seaside to one-liners in a script.  
Ditto cryptography.  Add some lines to load .cs or whatever files I create on 
my own, and I should be able to download an image, and then run one script that 
builds the new image.

I will stop short of asking you to manually keep up with the small releases, as 
I probably would end up waiting for the October release before building a new 
image.  It would however be great to either reduce what you do to a simple 
script, or have it aggressively track updates once Pharo is officially released.

>From a gradually decreasing distance at least, Installer looks like it is 
>trying to fill a gap.  As always, I would like to see Pharo sprout an ability 
>to apply multiple categories per method; Dolphin has done that from (almost?) 
>the beginning, and it is quite addictive.  My point being that however clever, 
>systems that take the one available category to package methods make the 
>restriction all the more obvious.

I hope that makes some sense.  Thanks to all for what is shaping up to be a 
nice system!

Bill





Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254

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On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - For example I would like to have a real look at MC1.6 but the
> message around it is blurry

MC1.6 is not the topic here.

> I tried LFP and it broke on me.

It worked fine for me. You may want to try again and send bug report
to Keith who answered all my emails.

> - I like installer but when I look at the code I would like to refactor it.


The code may not be perfect but it works fine. I don't think Keith
would ignore our enhancements to his code.


> - There is no document in a nice format that explain why and how (i'm
> fixing that for installer and I was waiting because I will refactor it else I 
> do not publish the chapter but I did not want to insult keith since this is 
> not the point since I like installer).


This is not fair. There is "no document in a nice format that
explains" most of the tools you use everyday. But you still use them.
The more people use a tool, the best chance you have to get
documentation. Moreover, Keith and Matthew wrote a lot of things in
pbwiki, squeak wiki and mailing lists.


> - unknown is strange :)

Should not be for us Squeakers and Pharoers.

>        - So if you want to help me I would love to have a
>                - Installer code refactored
>                - Installer chapter
>                - Sake (have a look at the code)
>                - Sake Chapter for the book

I would love that too

-- 
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)


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