Thanks I will have a look.

stef
On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Gary Chambers wrote:

> See Preference>>preferenceValue: (that is what happens when a   
> preference is
> changed).
> This sends notifyInformeeOfChange which can perform a zero argument  
> selector
> on the "model" object/class which
> then eventually has to query Preferences for the value.
> See senders of, for instance,
> #addPreference:categories:default:balloonHelp:projectLocal:changeInformee:changeSelector:viewRegistry
>  
> :
> and their associated changeSelectors.
>
> This is how things are at the moment.
>
> Lukas' idea about pragmas is nice, essentially the same as a discovery
> interface. Either way the PreferenceBrowser would need changing.
>
> Regards, Gary.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] About Preference Flow: was
> Re:MonticelloChangesDialog
>
>
> Sorry gary you lost me. I do not get change informee.
>
> On Feb 4, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
>
>> Looking at the changeInformee code in Preferences/Preference, the
>> informee
>> still has to query the preference
>> to pick up any changes as it stands...
>
> If I understand correctly I think not.
> The flow is only from the Preference to the tools and after the tools
> only refers to
> its internal state (which represents a state in his own preference).
>
> Stef
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] About Preference Flow: was Re:
>> MonticelloChangesDialog
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
>>
>>> Ceratainly possible. You'd want a discovery mechanism for a new
>>> Preference
>>> Browser also, otherwise who would know what the preferences are.
>>
>> no because you still define the preference in the Preference class
>> it just pushes the right value in MyTool and MyTool does not have to
>> query Preference
>> at runtime.
>>
>>> The method flow would still be similar, unless you had some
>>> redirection to
>>> alternate classes or methods or blocks...
>>
>> No. We use the preference when we select it. Then MyTool uses what  
>> has
>> been pushed
>> to it. and in particular it does not query at runtime preference.
>> So Preference becomes a removal layer on top of the system and not
>> something
>> referenced by every method flow.
>>
>>> So, in new scheme (no dependency on Preferences) the doSomething
>>> might be:
>>>
>>> self class shouldUseNewDiffTool
>>> ifTrue: [kjlhkjhjkh ]
>>> ifFalse: [nkjhkjkjhkj]
>>
>> Yes in mytool I deal the way I want about my preference since they  
>> are
>> local to me.
>> I do not involve preference. Preference is just a handy facade
>> grouping all the preferences
>> and an entry point to set the preferences in the tools.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and
>>> MyTool class>>preferences
>>>
>>> would answer something suitable for a preference browser.
>>
>> Could be but the package could also install the preferences in the
>> preferences class
>>
>> Stef
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards, Gary.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:58 AM
>>> Subject: [Pharo-project] About Preference Flow: was Re: Monticello
>>> ChangesDialog
>>>
>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> I have a request about the way we use preference. And this is kind
>>>> of
>>>> really really important if we want to
>>>> stop having spaghetti code.
>>>>
>>>> Instead of having the current situation ie
>>>>
>>>> MyTool>>doSomething
>>>>
>>>> ....
>>>> Preferences useNewDiffTool
>>>> ifTrue: [kjlhkjhjkh ]
>>>> ifFalse: [nkjhkjkjhkj]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and not been able to remove the preferences (or that the preference
>>>> is
>>>> just a configuration layer).
>>>>
>>>> I would like to have the preference made that way
>>>>
>>>> MyTool class>>useNewDiff
>>>>
>>>> MyTool class>> useOldDiff
>>>>
>>>> **NO REFERENCE TO PREFERENCE IN THE METHOD FLOW!!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Preferences useNewDiffTool
>>>> MyTool useNewDiff
>>>>
>>>> I really think that we can do it that way and this way we would
>>>> have a
>>>> much more object-oriented system
>>>> Do you think that this is possible with polymorph?
>>>> I think so.
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
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