yes
the google site is not for beginner

On Feb 8, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Michael Rueger wrote:

> wouldn't most of the problems fixed by pointing beginners to the one
> click version of Pharo?
>
> Michael
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Hernán Morales Durand
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Let's suppose I'm a first visitor reading this page:
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2
>>
>> " ... A link is given below to get the image ... "
>> There are various links below, specifically what is that link?  
>> (Suggestion:
>> anchor the link word)
>>
>> " ... You can either upgrade your image ... "
>> Any hint or link explaining how?
>>
>> " ... The virtual machine may be downloaded from ... "
>> Suggestion:
>> " ... The virtual machine [for the X Operating System] may be  
>> downloaded
>> from ... " and then
>> "The virtual machine [for the Y Operating System] may be downloaded  
>> from ...
>> "
>>
>> " ... The lastest VM available ... "
>> " ... The latest VM available ... " (typo)
>>
>> " Pharo files are still hosted at the Pharo INRIA project site. "
>> From an user point of view I don't know why that would be relevant.
>>
>> " Please head over to http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 "
>> To get the image ? the image and VM ? to choose downloading options ?
>> (what I mean is that isn't clear the "image" reference at the  
>> beggining of
>> page refers to this link or the "specific files" link below).
>>
>> " Here are some links to specific files:
>> Pharo Core: Pharo0.1Core-10204.zip "
>> Suggestion:
>> " If you want to do/have/use X, you can download Pharo Core... "
>> " If you want to do/have/use Y, you can download Pharo Developer... "
>> etc.
>>
>> Final notes:
>> -There is no "Installation instructions" guidelines or link, this  
>> commonly
>> is: "When download is completed, uncompress.... get a  
>> mysterious .sources
>> file, and then copy the .exe there......"
>> -Still remain assumptions for a first visitor, like he already  
>> knows what is
>> an image, a virtual machine. Many first visitors are outsiders and  
>> they
>> download first, read later (show me don't tell me). My suggestion  
>> is to
>> provide a link/page in key words "image", "virtual machine", I  
>> guess there
>> are many sites where this is explained easily; and a reference  
>> link, to the
>> SqueakByExample book for example, for people who wants to read more.
>> Just a couple of suggestions.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>>
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