As I see it
* Andika has a look similar to Lucida Grande, the display font of Mac
OS X and therefore fits better to the Watery2 theme, while at the same
time retains its own style.
* It is a Unicode font, with an already remarkable range of Unicode
characters that will be extened over time by the SIL people, while
Vera is limited mainly to the characters in the Basic Latin and
Latin-1 Supplement portions of Unicode
* The visual identity of Vera is worn out by its use in other
projects like GNOME – as Times New Roman's has been worn out to the
overuse in Word
* Pharo is new and its visual identity undefined, it therefor can
profit from use of a font with a more fresh design
Jérôme
Am 24.02.2009 um 18:56 schrieb Adrian Lienhard:
> I looked at Andika with Marcus yesterday, and we both had the
> impression that Bitstream Vera fits better. Is there any advantage to
> the Andika font? Andika does not seem to provide a monotype too.
>
> Adrian
>
>
> On Feb 24, 2009, at 18:25 , Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> 2009/2/24 Jerome <[email protected]>:
>>> It seems Andika has a higher line-spacing because it takes
>>> characters
>>> with multiple stacked unicode diacritics[2] into account which would
>>> be clipped otherwise[1]. If this is deemed not aceptable, there
>>> exists
>>> the SIL Type Tuner, which can change the line-height easily. [3]
>>> Unfortunatly I have no windows system.
>>>
>> here the .xml config produced by running:
>> TypeTuner.exe -x and.xml AndBasR.ttf
>>
>> So, there is
>> <feature name="Line spacing" value="Normal">
>> and possible values
>> <value name="Normal"/>
>> <value name="Tight"/>
>> <value name="Loose"/>
>> <value name="Imported"/>
>>
>> i can try to rebuild font using 'Tight' line spacing.
>> But i don't want to install this font on my windoze box. Is
>> squeak/freetype allows to load a truetype font from directory where
>> vm
>> located?
>>
>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Andika_FAQ-KI#5755a55d
>>> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic
>>> [3] http://scripts.sil.org/TypeTuner
>>>
>>> Am 24.02.2009 um 16:55 schrieb Igor Stasenko:
>>>
>>>> 2009/2/24 Gary Chambers <[email protected]>:
>>>>> That's just down to the fact that textstyles are applied on
>>>>> opening
>>>>> of
>>>>> browsers/morphs.
>>>>> Reopening the browsers should sort it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The slight other concern I have with this font is the apparently
>>>>> excessive
>>>>> line spacing, not as compact as, say, Arial.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone knows, how/where line height is calculated?
>>>> Maybe this code does not takes font DPI in account, or assuming a
>>>> fixed dpi which is mismatching with screen dpi.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Hilaire Fernandes" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:20 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Font for Pharo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can it be related to a problem I saw recently with text string
>>>>> inappropriately clipped toward the end (string length calculus
>>>>> seems
>>>>> too short of 1 or 2 pixels)?
>>>>> I can see it in last release when using deja vue font for example.
>>>>>
>>>>> It does not show up in #194 however.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hilaire
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/2/23 Norbert Hartl <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 20:18 +0200, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>>>>>> 2009/2/23 Norbert Hartl <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> On linux it doesn't look very good. There is something weird
>>>>>>>> with the font height and position. Well, it looks a lot better
>>>>>>>> in pharo than in gnome :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> seems like you changed font after opening a browser window. And
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> using old font height to calculate line heights.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I would have changed the font after opening the window I
>>>>>> couldn't
>>>>>> see the new font. The fonts are only applied on opening a window.
>>>>>> You can see it in the workspace and the menu two. There is enough
>>>>>> space through the big line height. In the class browser it is
>>>>>> somehow
>>>>>> cut off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> screenshot is attached.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 13:33 +0100, Jérôme wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found the Font "Andika Basic"[2] which is an Open Source and
>>>>>>>>> Free-
>>>>>>>>> Software[1] Unicode-ready font made by the same people who
>>>>>>>>> brought us
>>>>>>>>> Gentium, the typeface for the nations. I suggest using Andika
>>>>>>>>> as the
>>>>>>>>> Pharo CI Font since it can be distributed along with Pharo and
>>>>>>>>> looks a
>>>>>>>>> little bit like Lucida Grande, the Mac-UI-font, but at the
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>> is more friendly and better readable[3]. According to the
>>>>>>>>> Andika
>>>>>>>>> Website, Andika is Swahili, which is spoken widely in
>>>>>>>>> southeastern
>>>>>>>>> regions of the African continent, and means "Write!".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have a look:
>>>>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>>>> http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=Andika
>>>>>>>>> [3] http://minusfreun.de/blog/uploads/Pharo.png
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jérôme
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
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