Hi Andres, (CC-ing the list) yes, some points:
- the newest Pharo is AFAIK currently slow due to a bug introduced in one of the latest updates, Stephane tries to roll back (see http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-June/009729.html) - I think it would be better to package VM+sources+changes+image in one file per platform for the main download page in the future or provide a "one click" experience. There is already a one click install for Seaside based on pharo (see new on www.seaside.st) - so could be a "one click pharo" - the windows installer is releatively new and therefore not yet on the download page (we will change that) There is now a newer, see: http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-June/009656.html Thanks for the feedback and tell us how the win32 Setup goes as soon as you are ready. Bye Torsten -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:32:07 -0300 > Von: andres <...> > An: Torsten Bergmann <...> > Betreff: Re: Fwd: First try of Pharo > Hi Torsten, thanks for the quick response! I think that, since I didn't > have much time to write, I couldn't explain myself in the previous mail. > So, here is my second try :). I really like the goals of Pharo and I > wish that it becomes a professional St open source solution. I have > historically worked with VW and could never get used to Squeak, yet I > would love to work with something like pharo in the future. So, the aim > of my mail was more to portrait the experience of someone saying "I've > been hearing about Pharo, let's give it a try". > So I went into the page, download section and got the pharo 09.06.01 > image (with seaside and pier) and the corresponding vm for my platform. > My feeling is that if I just wanted to get a taste of Pharo I would just > say that I got an error message and that the environment was very slow > and I think this is really a pity. Of course I'm not working too hard > here and I know the project hasn't reach the 1.0 version, but in some > cases (and this is more a personal appreciation) you got only one shot > to attract people to your product and if this was the only shot for > pharo I would have dismissed it. > As you said, the first issue is extremely simple to solve and it is > really frustrating that the first thing you see when trying a new piece > of software is an error message. After you mentioned it in the mail, I > realized that the sources where in the page, however the first time I > saw the page I associated them with the /VM/ sources files, since it is > an open source project and the title of the section is "Source file" > (which I misread as "Source Files", hence the confusion). Regarding the > one-click image I think it is a great idea and I think it would be great > to include that in the download page of the project together with the > other files. That would make the newcommers life easier. > I'm on my linux box now, so as soon as I'm on the other machine and get > some air I'll try the one-click image and tell you how it went. > > HTH, > Andrés > > Torsten Bergmann escribió: > > Andres wrote: > >> Starting the image would give the error attached in the > >> screenshot. I tried moving the image to be in the same folder as the > >> VM with no luck. > > > > The *.source file is missing. Download the file from [1] and > > extract it where the VM is located. > > > > You can also use the prepackaged Installer for Windows (containing > > anything you need, so pharo shows up in the start menu) - see [2] > > to download the setup.exe > > > > > > Use this and tell us how it goes. > > Take care: your files with the *.image extension are still associated > > with the other VM that you installed. > > > > Bye > > Torsten > > > > BTW: If you are afraid of the traffic on the mailinglist just subscribe > > but set option to not get emails. Then you can browse the archive > > to read but still post questions. See [3] > > > > > > [1] http://pharo-project.org/download > > [2] > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/22410/setup_pharo_0.0.0.3.exe > > [3] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-June/009617.html -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
