yes yes yes! Stef On Jul 3, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> Hi Bill, > > Performance is certainly important. Please don't stop bugging us to > make progress at this front too ;) > > What we should start with is to identify which features makes it slow. > > I recently posted basic benchmarks [1], but we need to identify single > features so that we know where to optimize or which features should > better be disabled. > > What would help is if you could tell us what exactly is slow (at the > moment I'm mainly working in the core image without freetype fonts and > speed feels ok on my MacBook Pro). > > Cheers, > Adrian > > [1] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-June/009905.html > > > On Jul 3, 2009, at 00:29 , Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> Stef, >> >> Understood, but since you appear to be leaving open things that I >> consider to be drastic (removing traits), it only seems reasonable >> to try the faster browser on some slower machines to see what impact >> it makes. It would not take too much prodding for me to be able to >> give some guidance along the lines of "not enough impact to be of >> help" or "well worth adopting." _Something_ is eating up a lot of >> clock cycles at present. >> >> Bill >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> ] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:25 PM >> To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What will be the standard browser in >> Pharo? >> >> "Ideally we would love to have a fast browser with package >> support:..." >> >> Notice the "ideally" and the "would" haha >> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bsch...@anest.ufl.edu >> <mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: >> Stef, >> >> Is there a way to get the fast browser, or an image with it loaded? >> >> Bill >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:30 PM >> To: >> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What will be the standard browser in >> Pharo? >> >> Hi oscar >> >> Ideally we would love to have a fast browser with package support: >> - dual browser >> - class extensions >> - traits >> - refactoring >> - icons >> >> Now apparently OBEnhancements was a bit dirty and this is not clear >> what colin will integrate or not. >> Lukas has a OB version which is fast but it does not have >> - dual browser >> - class extensions >> - traits >> - icons >> So david and lukas should talk a bit more and we could get the best >> of the worlds. >> Saturday we should have a discussion. Having a fast but powerful >> browser is important and right now if the browser does not support >> trait then we should remove traits from the image. >> Similarly we cannot work well without class extension support and >> other package related functionality. >> Stef >> >> >> >> On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> I am trying to port Squeak by Example to Pharo by Example. I am a >>> bit >>> confused about what is suppose dto be the standard browser now. I >>> thought it was the OB Package Browser, but Damien Cassou just gave >>> me >>> a new image where the browser is an OB System Browser (Categories, >>> not >>> packages). I cannot even see any more how to switch between the >>> two. >>> >>> Can someone enlighten me? (Then I can explain it in the book.) >>> >>> - on >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
