Guys would it not be cool for each week we pick a different language
for the pharo list? I would really like to brush up on my
French....and we are very diverse in our group. I think this would
have two benefits. 1) we would talk less and write more code 2) we
would permanently have our tounge inserted in our cheek.

;-)

cheers mike
On Tuesday, July 7, 2009, Miguel Cobá <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Keith Hodges<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Keith Hodges wrote:
>>>> so I'm laughing when people suggest that we are predators.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I am still counting your contributions back to the packages which you
>>> are using, which are public domain, and have public repositories...
>>>
>>> answer zero
>>>
>>>
>> Its not even a technical issue, you have chosen a philosophically
>> predatory stance from the outset.
>>
>> "We will make our own image, without any concern for giving back to
>> those who made it possible" The number of times I have heard, we are
>> changing this that or the other, and if you want the improvement "you
>> can port it if you want to", completely illustrates my point.
>>
>> Those who made the contributions that you are using probably expected
>> that any improvements to their efforts would be fed back to them in a
>> form that they could make use of.
>
> This is a priori discarded because of the MIT license.
> If you don't want this kind of behavior, the GPL/LGPL licenses exists for this
> very exact situation. With MIT you can't force retributions back.
>
>
>>
>> It is the main reason for companies to make their code open source,
>> because they anticipate some reciprocation from those who benefit, and
>> thus the benefit is mutual, and might offset the considerable cost of
>> development.
>>
>
> I don't think so. And when they do so, the choose other license. Take
> the Java case. It is not MIT, but GPL. This is so that MS, IBM and other can't
> run away with the code with giving back. Again, the license establish the
> rights and obligations of the receiving party.
>
>
>> And in case you are wondering, the public repository for the community
>> to work towards improving SUnit,
>>  ( squeaksource/Testing ) does include
>>
>> #assert:equals:
>>
>> Keith
>>
>
> Miguel Cobá
>
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