On Jul 10, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

> Stef,
>
> One of my greatest concerns about/for the Squeak community is an  
> overall tone of "*YOU* can't do that because *I* think its's ugly" -  
> or in this case, too slow.  So, far be it from me to tell you that  
> you cannot have even a super slow browser that does something you  
> need.  That's all the more true when you are doing such great things  
> for Smalltalk and Pharo in particular.  I am certainly not  
> suggesting that we remove the browser that helps you make things  
> better.
>
> However, I suggest that we consider carefully what we choose as the  
> default tools, or at least give options to those who are finding the  
> current defaults to be slow.  Even if we continue with the OB as the  
> default, we could at least have a script somewhere with a comment  
> along the lines of "for a faster (at the expense of features) IDE,  
> evaluate the following:".

Yes we are concious about that.


> It appears that we indeed have the alternate tools lurking in the  
> image, so a little advertising might go a long way until we can fix  
> the bottlenecks or Elliot makes a VM that overpowers them.  I  
> *think* I am asking only that we advertise the options and perhaps  
> delay cleaning certain parts of the system until the high end tools  
> get a speed boost.  Alternately, we could take up a recent  
> suggestion to temporarily disable specific features that are  
> hobbling performance - either way that preserves what you need is  
> fine by me.  Is that reasonable?

Yes
I agree.

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