I agree. I must add that order is relevant. Our culture thinks progress from the left to the right. The contrary direction means to go backwards (like not doing or undoing something). That's why the buttons to regret from an action are at the left and the commit kind of buttons at the right. And yes, that's why windows does it broken for western cultures. To create intelligent stuff you need to know when to stop being creative. cheers, sebastian
> -----Mensaje original----- > De: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] En > nombre de Lukas Renggli > Enviado el: Thursday, August 20, 2009 04:41 > Para: [email protected] > Asunto: Re: [Pharo-project] call for better pop up messages > and UI for them > > Why can't it be done *exactly* the same way as it is handled in all > "reasonable" desktop applications such Apple Works or Microsoft > Office? > > Do you want to accept the changes you made? > Your changes will be lost if you don't accept them. > > Don't Accept > > Cancel > Accept > > Cheers, > Lukas > > 2009/8/20 Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]>: > > > > On Aug 20, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > >> Doesn't (Keep original method) imply that the old version of the > >> method, the one before you started editing, will be kept > (which would > >> be the same like discarding the changes)? > >> > >> Therefore, I like best: > >> > >>> (Discard changes) (Don't do anything) > >> > >> Or what about? > >> > >> (Discard changes) (Back) > > > > > > yes this one or the previous one is good. > > > > Stef > >> > >> Adrian > >> > >> On Aug 20, 2009, at 09:20 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>> yes, this old dialog is really bad from a usability > point of view. > >>>> > >>>> For your improved dialog, what does "Keep changes" do? > If it is the > >>>> old behavior of "Cancel" then this may be a bit > misleading because > >>>> nothing is saved, you just stop moving the focus away from the > >>>> method. > >>>> Maybe something along the lines of "Back to modified > method" would > >>>> be > >>>> better? > >>> > >>> > >>> (Discard changes) (Don't) > >>> (Discard changes) (Don't do anything) > >>> (Discard changes) (Keep original method) <- > probably better > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Adrian > >>>> > >>>> On Aug 19, 2009, at 23:25 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> <Picture 5.png> > >>>>> > >>>>> of course I forgot this one. > >>>>> > >>>>> Changes have not been saved. > >>>>> > >>>>> (Discard changes) (Keep changes) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Aug 19, 2009, at 11:17 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> hi guys > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I do not you but me I'm losing half of a second to > read (even if I > >>>>>> know it by hearth) this stupid window > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <Picture 3.png> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It would be so cool to have only two buttons because I do not > >>>>>> understand what is the field input and the cancel > >>>>>> > >>>>>> and two buttons > >>>>>> (Discard changes) (Keep changes) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm so stupid: I do not understand what is cancel here > (of course > >>>>>> this is cancel the change of method > >>>>>> but in UI flow I do not know that I was selecting or changing - > >>>>>> now > >>>>>> I get this crappy question and > >>>>>> I panic .... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Any taker? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stef_______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > >>>>>> project > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>> [email protected] > >>>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
