On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[email protected]>wrote:

> I just had an experience that fuels my session manager fire.  I loaded
> Pharo, and it was totally unresponsive.  Why?  I can't be absolutely
> certain, but here's my story: last night, I had an open connection to a
> system visible only with a vpn.  With the vpn not in use, either Pharo (or
> more likely ODBC) went nuts because it could not find the server, and I
> finally killed the process, started the vpn, and all was well on the next
> startup.  IMHO, hanging like that is one of the worst things software can
> do, and I think we can do a lot to fix it with a few simple changes.
>
> Linux ODBC is probably partly to blame, but it should not have been invoked
> so early in statup.  Someone recently argued against lazy connections, but
> this would not have happened if they were part of the design.  The image
> would have become helpless once I did something that triggered database
> activity, but that is where overlapped calls enter the picture.  Even
> without the, at least I would have been able to use the image.  Note that if
> I had taken the offending image to another machine, it could have been
> useless - not good.
>
>
I don't know if I understood you. What does your ODBc drivers do on startup
? did you put some object in the startup/shutdown list ?

best

Mariano


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