I can tell you that when I presented smalltalk to students I looked  
stupid in the past.
First of all because of look
Second because of certain piece of code (at least smart guys know and  
do a difference).

Stef

> Stef,
>
> You say "we damaged ourselves" - I never noted your ridiculing  
> people for wanting a better user interface.  There were many who did  
> just that, and they were the ones who did the damage, IMHO.
>
> Do you remember Jim Benson's Zurgle effort?  Great stuff.  The only  
> thing he did wrong was to not have a lightweight theme.  WinXP  
> offered some mouse-over challenges, so I can understand why he  
> tackled it, but it was too much (not to mention UGLY, because it  
> looked like XP).  That small slip aside, the Squeak community  
> completely ignored what he did; I was offended for him.  It was  
> happening yet again to Pinesoft, but no more, thanks to Pharo.
>
> Bill
>


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