Hi Ramiro, Yes, this is an issue of the Mac VM only.
It was reported in the sense that I sent a mail with instructions to reproduce the problem to the Squeak-vm mailing list and John acknowledged the problem. I don't know whether John intends to fix this, though. Adrian On Oct 11, 2009, at 22:06 , Ramiro Diaz Trepat wrote: > Hi Adrian, > I did open both images with the same VM. I am sure this must be the > problem then. As I said in one of the mails, the problem in my case > went > away when I bounced all the images. > It only happens in the Mac VM then? > Do we need to report this bug somewhere or is it already reported? > Cheers > > r > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Did you open another image with the same VM? There is a wired >> behavior of >> the Mac VM that makes the second image listen on the same ports as >> the >> already running image. This may (or may not) be related. >> >> See >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-June/002726.html >> >> Adrian >> >> >> On Oct 11, 2009, at 17:18 , Ramiro Diaz Trepat wrote: >> >> Robert, can you see your port still listening with this command ? >>> >>> sudo lsof -i -P | grep -i listen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> Ah, if Robert still has an image with the issue and if he does not >>> mind >>>> giving it away for autopsy, maybe someone could look at it :)May >>>> be John >>>> Macintosh can help us. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Robert Sirois <[email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm running the latest mac vm as well. I believe I attempted the >>>> same >>>>> things to no avail. >>>>> >>>>> RS >>>>> >>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:39:37 +0200 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ? >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> I use the same configuration with the 4.1.1beta2U VM. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lukas >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/10/11 Ramiro Diaz Trepat <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Correlation does not mean causality, I know. But in my case >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> >>>>>> happened >>>>> >>>>>> right after saving my image, although I had saved it many times >>>>>> before >>>>>>> without issues. >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat < >>>>>>> >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Lukas, >>>>>>>> I am using the latest Pharo, and I have loaded Seaside with >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ScriptLoader >>>>> >>>>>> loadSeaside30. I am using it on a Mac with Leopard. >>>>>>>> I have managed to reuse that port, with random tests and I do >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> believe >>>>> >>>>>> there may be causality here, but I will tell you anyway what I >>>>>> did. >>>>>>>> When this happens, I removed the problematic adaptor from the >>>>>>>> Seaside >>>>>>>> Control Panel and created a new one (on the same port), then >>>>>>>> I tried >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> closing >>>>> >>>>>> the image and restarting and it did not fix the problem. >>>>>> Although >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> when I >>>>> >>>>>> closed another non Seaside image I was running and then >>>>>> restarted the >>>>>>>> problematic image it worked. >>>>>>>> I wonder now if it is not a mac vm issue or socket issue. >>>>>>>> Robert, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> are you >>>>> >>>>>> also running on a mac? >>>>>>>> In spite I got the image working again, it is quite worring >>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> we >>>>> >>>>>> don't know the cause when an image stops answering requests >>>>>> (although >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>> image itself was not hanged at all and kept working fine), and, >>>>>> most >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> weird >>>>> >>>>>> of all, there is no exception or trace of a fault happening. >>>>>> This is >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> really >>>>> >>>>>> what is making me wonder if it is not a low level socket issue >>>>>> that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> never >>>>> >>>>>> gets to the image for it to throw an exception or anything at >>>>>> all. >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> r >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ps: I'm cross posting to Pharo because I believe this is not a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seaside >>>>> >>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Robert Sirois < >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm using Pharo 1.0.10419, but I'm not sure how to check the >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> two. I >>>>> >>>>>> think I'm still running 2.9 in the image I checked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> RS >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:30:37 +0200 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Komanche ? >>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've never seen this problem before. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What version of Pharo? Kom? Seaside? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lukas >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2009/10/11 Robert Sirois <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've also had this problem for quite a while now and have >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> found >>>>> >>>>>> any way to fix the problem either. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> RS >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ramiro Diaz Trepat <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Something really strange happened to me more than once >>>>>>>>>>> now.In a >>>>>>>>>>>> simple dev >>>>>>>>>>>> image (Pharo + Seaside3 + Kom on a Mac) after saving the >>>>>>>>>>>> image >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>> >>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>> point, Komanche stops answering anything at all, >>>>>>>>>>>> althought the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> port >>>>> >>>>>> keeps >>>>>>>>>>>> listening (as listed on a terminal). >>>>>>>>>>>> No errors are displayed anywere but the port becomes >>>>>>>>>>>> unusable >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>> >>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> point on. >>>>>>>>>>>> If I wish to continue using the same image I have to add >>>>>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>>>> adaptor in >>>>>>>>>>>> the Seaside Control Panel and start again. >>>>>>>>>>>> The "dead" ports never become usable again, not even >>>>>>>>>>>> stopping >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>> >>>>>> removing >>>>>>>>>>>> the adaptor and adding a new one. >>>>>>>>>>>> I am not even sure that this is a Komanche issue, as I >>>>>>>>>>>> said no >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> error >>>>> >>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> anykind is visible. >>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone come across this before? >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli >>>>>>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. 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