Hernan
>
> How long the community will support the deliberate decision of not
> answering to a major contributor?
> How do you expect contribution of large open source companies to this
> project avoiding political or technical conflicts (or both)?
this is not that we do not reply. This is that keith is always saying
the same.
Now I do not have to power to say to people not to develop their own
stuff
and also people have the freedom not to understand
- sake
- now you can ask jannik for example: we started to write something
on installer and sake
but we got confused on sake (may be with a physical meeting at esug
this would make a lot of point clearer)
- not to like some part of the installer
- not to contribute
- not have the time to understand something
- prefer to build thier own even if this is limited
- For example I tried to check the SUnitextensions and I could not
find them.
Did you see me not integrating something in Pharo
Did you see me not mentioning rio? Even if they are some points I do
not like.
>
>
> Focusing only on bug-driven development and ingoring valid questions
> with a kind of systematic corporative silence is not the way to go.
> And if the managerial staff decide to continue ignoring, sooner or
> later you would have two problems to resolve: The unsolved pending
> questions plus the management of the emergence of social subsystems
> (if the number of contributors increases) without enough coordinators
> for pivots, because of the limited size of contributors for a niche
> technology like Smalltalk.
>
> Censorship of uninformed newcomers is common and an implicit norm,
> censorship of a known member is disgusting.
sorry hernan but I cannot let you say that in this mailing-list.
Did we ever not reply to a newbie email?
> Such attitude is limiting involvement and participation in the
> community, because implicitly
> define clear roles which affects the discussion space and group
> dynamics.
>
> Finally, I do not want a holy war here, I just want responses without
> personal attacks and without quoting out of context fallacies.
Are my answer satisfactory?
Now I have a question:
- do you use sake personnally?
- do you have positive experience?
- did you check the code? what is your feedback?
- is there tests?
- what do you think about task definition pros and cons?
You can replace Sake but RIO, Sunit extensions (if you find it)
Please do it.
So far in our group people succeeded to make TestServer running for
Moose and
if they come and tell me that sake is better/easier/ then we will
probably switch
Now I asked the summertalk student to also consider evaluating Sake
and we will see.
Stef
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