Stef,

Far be it from me to kick you anywhere, but IMHO a local Seaside server is a 
very nice OPTION to have; I strongly disagree with those who have suggested the 
Polymorph, host widgets, etc. are a waste of time by comparison.  We need both.

One niche where local-only Seaside is a great idea is to provide a 
configuration GUI for a service.

Bill



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stéphane 
Ducasse
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:41 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Starting out: db and gui recommendation

Hi rick

welcome!



> I am a Java & .Net application programmer who has flirted with 
> Smalltalk for a long time without doing the "deep dive" to really 
> understand it.  Pharo and Seaside are making me think that everything 
> is coming together now for another try.  That and some micro-ISV 
> ambitions to give me a real reason to write some code outside of work.
>
> For my type of project I really need a db package and a gui package.  
> That leads to the questions:
> 1. Right now, is SqeakDBX my best choice for a db interface?  Sqlite 
> is my db of choice for the project I have in mind.
> 2. For the UI, I've been reading about the choices and I'm having a 
> hard time finding a currently supported project.  Do I go with 
> polymorph by default?

If you need a desktop app yes. Else why not seaside directly?

> For the UI, what about "self-hosting" a Seaside instance and doing the 
> UI in the browser?  Ie, the app starts a Seaside server and
> opens a browser window pointed at the apps main window (home page).   
> Can that be done?  Is it a good idea?

Yes!

> I hope you can give me some direction.  I like the direction of Pharo 
> and Seaside is just plain cool.  I want to do this to get my head 
> outside the coding box I'm kind of stuck in.  And have some fun.

We want the same. :)
Do not hesitate to kick our asses. The Smalltalk community got trapped into the 
"we invented the mouse" syndrome and we should really move again.

Stef

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