> See also
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1353
        in 11071 ;)

> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1542

"This is issue1353
 isn't it ?

        Lukas proposed to keep a Set, but optimize its creation
        (with extra knowledge that same key hash code is used in both Set and 
Dictionary
        which breaks a bit encapsulation)

        However, even if the Set is created fast in #keys, the overall effect 
depends on
        usage made of these keys.
        For example a Set then iterates slower than an Array for such code:
          self keys select: [:e | e beginsWith: 'test']

        Otherwise, the second advantage of an Array is that keys and values 
both are arrays
        in sync, which might be a nice property..."

yes I agree I prefer to have both arrays in sync it is more regular.

> I uploaded a SLICE that just add a few #asSet here and there.
> Quasi-neutral as long as keys are Set, but enabling a switch to Array
> for macro benchmarks purposes...
> 
> May I also push
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1354
> which is related but quite independent ?

Yes this is on my todo to integrate but I wanted people to discuss it before.

"The problem of current definition of classVarNames is precisly that they are 
unordered.
The order is not defined by user, it just depend on the hash codes of 
classVarNames
modulo the size of classPool, unless we sort them.
Please look at usage."

I totally agree with you nicolas I hate that the classVar changes randomly 
their order.

in 11071 :)

> 
> Nicolas
> 
> 2009/12/4  <[email protected]>:
>> I think this last assertion has to be tempered by another statistic: which is
>> the relationship between iteration (a.k.a. uses of) and creation?
>> 
>> --
>> Cesar Rabak
>> 
>> 
>> Em 04/12/2009 09:48, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> escreveu:
>> 
>> 
>> this is interesting to see that this is still a guess game.
>> Even with these numbers I cannot evaluate what could be a slowdown/pseed up
>> impact on the complete system. I imgain that the ietration slow down should 
>> be minimal
>> and compensated by the creation speed up.
>> May be in the future when system will have a better knowledge of themselves
>> we may end up having better tools...
>> 
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