2010/1/9 Schwab,Wilhelm K <[email protected]>

>  Mariano,
>
> The reason I objected (and continue to do so) to clobbering the web image
> is that complete chaos of how to install things comes into play.  Assuming
> that I know what YOU said on the subject is a stretch to say the least: try
> a search engine on the subject.
>
>

I am a bit tired of this. I will answer for the last time and I hope you
understand: Do you want seaside ?

1) Volunteer yourself to build Web images. It is easy to ask, but what about
doing?

2) Take the Web Image before, analize how seaside was installed and do it by
yourself. I cannot take it more than half an hour.

3) Use official seaside image

4) Report what doesn't work with the ConfigurationOfSeaside in Metacello
mailing list so that everybody can collaborate and fix it. If you see that
mailing list, I did exactly that. Just saying "doesn't work"  does not help.

Cheers

Mariano


> BTW, it does not work.  There is very little I can do until Seaside loads.
>
> Bill
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mariano
> Martinez Peck
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 09, 2010 4:08 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN]
> Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1
>
>
>
> 2010/1/9 Schwab,Wilhelm K <[email protected]>
>
>>  Gofer seaside28 load
>>
>>
>
> I didn't say that. I said:
>
> Gofer new
>     squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
>     package: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside28';
>     load.
>
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside28) load
>
> And I also said I was not sure of this is working.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mariano
>
>
>>  does not work.  What is the correct way to install Seaside - I can't do
>> much w/o it.
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mariano
>> Martinez Peck
>> *Sent:* Saturday, January 09, 2010 3:01 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN]
>> Pharo1.0-10505-rc1dev10.01.1
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/9 Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Hi Mariano,
>>>
>>> good job. Some feedback.
>>>
>>> The installScript has unused variables and your proxy settings exposed.
>>> Maybe this should be deleted from the final build.
>>>
>>>
>> hahahahah I knew I was going to forget about that :(
>> Thanks. Some bash guru that help me to automatize this? I would like
>> something that automatically removes that from the file if it is found.
>> Can you help me Miguel ?
>>
>>
>>> Shouldn't be this a RC 2? because there is a new build process and has
>>> nothing to do with the RC1?
>>>
>>>
>> I thought about putting it RC2, actually, I was going to do that. But as
>> the PharoCore was named rc1, I din't want to name it rc2 because maybe it
>> was confusing.
>> I am not sure, thus. What do you think ?
>>
>>
>>> Also, the changes files, shouldn't be compressed for each RC and for the
>>> final release?
>>>
>>
>> Excellent point. Do you rather to Smalltalk >> condenseChanges ?  It can
>> be perfectly added. Right now, we are doing all this:
>>
>>
>>     MCFileBasedRepository flushAllCaches.
>>     MCDefinition clearInstances.
>>     Smalltalk removeEmptyMessageCategories.
>>     Utilities cleanseOtherworldlySteppers.
>>     Undeclared removeUnreferencedKeys.
>>     Categorizer sortAllCategories.
>>     Symbol compactSymbolTable.
>>     Smalltalk at: #ReleaseBuilderDeveloper ifPresent: [:builder | builder
>> new fixObsoleteReferences].
>>     RequiredSelectors initialize.
>>     ProvidedSelectors initialize.
>>     LocalSends initialize.
>>     Smalltalk organization removeEmptyCategories.
>>     SystemBrowser removeObsolete.
>>     TheWorldMenu removeObsolete.
>>     AppRegistry removeObsolete.
>>     Set rehashAllSets.
>>     Smalltalk cleanOutUndeclared.
>>     Smalltalk garbageCollect.
>>
>>
>> Do you think something else should be addded?   Maybe we can reuse
>> ScriptLoader cleanings ?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Also, the packages.txt file talks about PharoCore1.0 (#10505). Has
>>> someone thought about the name shown in System->About:
>>>
>>> PharoCore1.0rc1
>>> Latest update: #10505
>>>
>>> Because this is not a PharoCore image. Shouldn't this read something
>>> like
>>>
>>> Pharo 1.0 Dev image.
>>> Based on PharoCore1.0rc1
>>> Latest update: #10505
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, that's true. I agree. At least it was not "my falt" as it was already
>> like that. But I am agree we should change that. However, I don't know how
>> to do it.
>> Maybe something related to SystemVersion? Any help ?
>>
>>
>>
>>> What about the disabling of software updates in the Pharo dev/web
>>> images? Will this be implemented or a careful update stream will be made
>>> in order to not break a dev image with overrides (real difficult I
>>> think).
>>>
>>>
>> Maybe. But in addition, sometimes there are bugs that updating just fix
>> them. I am not sure if I want to disable. I rather warn people about it.
>> Do you know if we break some overrrides doing an update?
>>
>>
>>> Maybe all this setup can be put in a post-script in the
>>> ConfigurationOfPharo class.
>>>
>>
>> It is. We have pre and post do its. So, no problem :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> That's all for now. I'm going to use this image to work the following
>>> days.
>>>
>>
>> Cheers and keep the good work.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks Miguel for the excellent feedback. Let's hope to build better
>> images!
>>
>> Mariano
>>
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> Miguel Cobá
>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx
>>>
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