lukas 

could you copy the icons I did from O2 :)
steal them please :)

Stef
On Jan 19, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> 2010/1/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:33 PM, David Roethlisberger
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Ok. Good. Right now, the Pharo community decided to use Lukas'
>>>>> repository instead of Colin's one, but I guess it can be merged. Lukas ?
>>> 
>>>> I find it unfriendly to merge into a foreign repository -- pull, fork and
>>>> merge in your own repository. And eventually ask the maintainer to merge 
>>>> the
>>>> code.
>>> 
>>> I'm confused. What is the right process to update OB for Pharo now? In
>>> Pharo-dev, as far as I see, OB is still taken from Colin's repo. Is this
>>> gonna change now? Where should I commit a patch to OB now, to Colin's, to
>>> Lukas' repo, somewhere else?
>>> 
>>> Maybe best would be to have a non-personal repo on squeaksource which can
>>> be used by all OB developers and from where Pharo takes the code?
>>> 
>>> David
>> 
>> I am confused too. Actually, this is exactly what I asked when people
>> suggested to use Lukas' OB.
> 
> Public code repositories do not work. I learned that with Seaside, and
> we all saw that in all its ugliness with OmniBrowser.
> 
> If this is a popular project in a public repository people will commit
> changes to that repository. Some of the committed changes are ...
> 
> - untested
> - break existing tests
> - break the architecture
> - break other code
> - put into the wrong package
> - only working for the committer
> - badly formatted or commented
> - depend on non-existing code
> - ...
> 
> Now, if nobody constantly observes that repository and cleans it up,
> you have an enormous mess. There are basically dozens of forks and
> nobody knows what works, what is broken, what is official, what to
> load, what to use, where to continue with development, etc.
> 
> And that's not even the end of it. The next thing that happens is that
> people start to merge: so random versions with random changes are
> merged in a random order. As a result the problems and bugs multiply.
> 
> After I saw GitHub, I realized that in the open-source world only
> read-only code repositories work. The cool thing is that Monticello
> and Git have a very similar model, so we just have to adapt their
> process:
> 
> - Every open-source project has a public read-only repository. Only
> core contributes that trust each other can commit into this
> repository.
> 
> - If I want to change something, submit a bug-fix, or an enhancement I
> simply fork the complete code base and commit it into my own
> repository.
> 
> - As a nice open-source contributor I ask one of the official
> maintainers to merge my changes by pointing them to my repository:
> 
>    - If they like the changes, they will merge them into the official
> repository.
> 
>    - If they don't like the changes, that's fine too. I have my own
> repository and can use the code in there.
> 
> That's it. It is simple and works really well.
> 
> That's why my OB repository is read-only. I know that the code in
> there passes all tests and that it does exactly what I want. Please
> fork it, improve it, fix things, etc. If I learn about the changes and
> if I like them I will merge them (that's what I did with some of the
> O2 code). I do not commit my changes to Colin's repository though, if
> he wants the code he can pull it (that's what he did in the past too).
> 
> Lukas
> 
> -- 
> Lukas Renggli
> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
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