On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <[email protected]>wrote:

> I am very much in favor or providing ready choice in the browsers and
> tools.  It would also help to have the browswers somehow brand themselves.
>  Conversation here centers on things like O2 vs. OB, but there are at least
> two O2 browswers (package and system).
>

This is exactly why having both browser is confusing a newcomer. If you
cannot choose, you don't confuse :)


>
> I am probably most concerned about keeping the standard tool set which does
> away with the new inspector and might have other favorable side effects.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Miguel Enrique
> Cobá Martinez
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] What we should do with the Dev image? Re:
> question about O2 vs OB
>
> El mié, 20-01-2010 a las 17:44 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck escribió:
> >
> >         That's the reason of having OB and O2. While both now work
> >         together in the same image
> >         without inferring each other, this indeed increases the number
> >         of classes in the image
> >         quite a lot as they duplicate a whole bunch of code. So I
> >         strongly suggest to either use
> >         OB or O2, even though you can have both. But I do not see a
> >         reason why people want to
> >         switch between the two dynamically in the same image.
> >
> >
> >
> > We have two things to choose: which browser is default and which ones
> > are installed. Both ? only one ?  The solution I like most, is in
> > these options:
> >
> > 1) Install both: OB and O2. Let OB as default.
> >
> > 2) Install only OB, of course, as default, and those who wants can
> > install O2 in that dev image. They way to install O2 now is very easy.
> >
> > 3) Install only OB, of course, as default, but create a group in
> > ConfigurationOfPharo like "StandardDevImageWithO2" so that those
> > people who want a dev image with O2 can just evaluate that in a core
> > image and wala!
> >
> > With 1 the image will be smaller but won't have O2 preinstalled. With
> > 2) and 3)  you will have also O2 but bigger image.
> >
> > I think I will coose 2) AND 3). Those who want to install O2 directly
> > in a dev image, use the ConfigurationOfO2 and those who wants to
> > create a dev image over the core, they use ConfigurationOfPharo with
> > the new group I can create.
>
> I think that group are the way to go. A group for pharo dev with OB (and
> only OB) a group with O2 (and only O2) a group with both (and this could be
> the default because most new users won't have a preference). Also, this
> avoid give any package preference over the other.
>
> Of course, the documentation for creating a dev image, should state clearly
> the three options to build an image.
>
> my 2 cents
>
>
>
> >
> > What do you think ?
> >
> > Mariano
> >
> >
> >
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