David,

The rebuttal: if it has time/ability to write information all over part of the 
screen, it can open a file and make sure it leaves a trace of what happened.  
Right?  The current vms (Windows and Linux) appear to be totally disinterested 
in logging crashes, and that needs to change.

Bill 



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] VM crash on Windows

On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 07:47:16PM -0500, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Good news/bad news: I got it running again :)  I have no idea what was 
> wrong, nor what is right now :(
> 
> A corrupt image file is not out of the question.  I was having huge problems 
> with Ubuntu (perhaps Linux in general??[*]) and cifs writing to windows 
> shares.  That problem suddenly went away some weeks ago, but maybe it is 
> simply less frequent now??  Nearly the same image was running just fine on a 
> sibling box, and copying the image from there to the offending machine got me 
> going again.
> 
> What bothers me here is not so much that Pharo crashed but that it did it so 
> abruptly and without logging anything that I could find.  Suggestions would 
> be most welcome.  


Bill,

Whatever is wrong, it is probably not the fault of the Pharo image.
When the VM crashes abruptly with no log file generated, it is most likely 
because it encountered an access violation (segfault) error in some plugin or 
in an FFI call. If you get a hard failure like that, the image is not able to 
write the debug log file (because it is already dead - d'oh!).

I think that various people have reported problems with virus scanners and that 
sort of thing on windows. And it is possible that running on network file 
systems (cifs etc) will expose bugs that do not show up when running on local 
file systems.

I think you're going to be stuck doing some good old process of elimination 
work here :(

Dave


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