Very well said Stef
Alexandre
On 17 Mar 2010, at 13:54, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Thanks Brian.
Brian you know we are not against Squeak. We are for beauty and
quality. :) (I always liked etoys but hated its implementation).
So welcomed on pharo.
Now I said that I will not be negative against squeak and I will
apply my resolution (which is easy because I cleaned some of
my rancor recently - I have a red pill for those interested :))
I think that if Squeak would build the next century multimedia
system I would be **really** happy. Now if they would build it
on take pharocore as a core then we could join forced. I do not say
that for my ego or for the fame of Pharo but more
in regards to people such as nicolas that published in both
communities.
Now we know where pharo is heading but this is not clear for Squeak.
May be they like that (no pun) and this is good for them,
this is ok too.
Now if they would take the Multimedia space and make it excellent (I
men truly excellent, clean and lean code), good abstraction (cairo,
pango....) then we would be in a win-win situation. We could focus
on the infrastructure and they would be the sexy Squeak.
But for this to happen people should decide to do it and accept that
they are not alone.
Stef
Hi folks, what do you think about removing Pen and
PenPointRecorder ?
At least, to remove it from the core and let them somewhere in a
repository.
Yes please, kill that crap.
Haha! This is why Pharo is going in the right direction! Keep up
the good work of cleaning, cleaning, cleaning, harvesting good
ideas and making the system better.
A friend of mine who worked with Squeak several years ago just a
few days ago was looking at the object model in Pharo and said
"Wow! That is so much cleaner and easier to look through now!"
These are worthy directions that we go in. Thanks Stef, Lukas,
Alexandre, Mariano, Doru, Marcus, Torsten, Henrik, Sig, Damien,
etc, etc, etc...
- Brian
There seem to be a couple of references though.
Lukas
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