Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kent Beck <[email protected]>
> Date: March 30, 2010 9:55:03 PM GMT+02:00
> To: Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: feedback on the bees book
> 
> Please do forward my idea to the list. I'm available for consultation with 
> whoever is implementing it. The key seems to me to begin with the goal--a 
> more fluid programming experience--and work backwards to measures that 
> approximate "fluidity" and a way of rapidly experimenting and getting getting 
> concrete feedback.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Kent
> 
> On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> That's one of the deep lessons of software development--the tortoise beats 
>>> the hare. Every day you make the software better, it gets better.
>> 
>> exact, so sadly. Smalltalkers got trapped in their nice little boxes and now 
>> lua is popping up as well as ruby or python. So many missed opportunities
>> and total lack of vision.
...

>>> I do enjoy Pharo. I find that it's still quite awkward with a Mac, from a 
>>> click path perspective (too many gestures necessary for the common actions),
>>> but I don't have any concrete suggestions so I suppose I shouldn't complain.
>> 
>>> I don't remember exactly which operations are hard to get to, except 
>>> perhaps "extract method". I'd love to have Pharo instrumented so every menu 
>>> item was tracked, then do a global optimization to reduce the number of 
>>> gestures necessary to operate the interface.
>> 
>> kent if you let me forward this mail to pharo may be somebody will do it 
>> just because you say so. 
>> 
>>> I suppose for completeness you'd also need to track the time between when a 
>>> menu popped up and when the item was selected. This would avoid the Squeak 
>>> problem of endlessly growing menus. I wonder if anyone has done this kind 
>>> of quantitative UI design optimization before...
>>> 
>>> Too many fun things to do.
>> 
>> 
> Yes ;)


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