On Apr 9, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
>
> I love the clean look with all the great developer features pre-installed
> (shout, OCompletion, etc.). It's been a pleasure to work with.
>
> And, a few things stood out that didn't seem to work as well. I'm sharing
> them here because I wonder what your opinions are. Also, what is the policy
> about contributing "good ideas" i.e. new/altered features that are not bug
> fixes? Is it best to discuss them on the list like this, or submit a
> changeset right off the bat per
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/HowToContribute?
Yes!
We are open to a lot of suggestions.
For example in 1.1 the way you define method category is waaaaaayyyyyyy better.
Check it you will see (even if there is a small bug).
>
> Suggestions:
> * Why shift for meta? On a Macbook (with one button), it's awkward to press
> shift+alt+click, and also disorienting to go back and forth from Squeak
> which is just alt+click. Is there a reason to not keep the convention?
I do not remember.
What we did was to stop the halos popping up plague. You can get halos but only
when you want.
> * what is with the workflow of the default browser? When you click on a
> protocol, the method template appears in the bottom pane, all highlighted
> and ready to be replaced. But because hovering over the pane doesn't give
> it the keyboard focus (like Squeak), you have to click in it, which
> unselects the template, which you then have to reselect manually… Certainly
> not a big deal, but weird. I though of a few possible fixes:
People already reported that to me informally
A bug fix would be good. Can you open or check if there is bug entry?
> - automatically give the bottom pane the keyboard focus when working in
> the protocol column (which doesn't seem to need it (I like this one - fewest
> steps for the user)
> - don't have the template pre-selected, so that clicking in the pane below
> the template selects it (easiest fix, requires one more user click)
>
> * bizarre window changing - the (on Mac) Cmd+(hold arrow) to rotate through
> the open windows is pretty cool, but when you tap the arrow key (instead of
> holding it), it just goes back and forth between two windows, which I can't
> see a use for. It seems it would be more useful to have the behavior to be:
> if you hold down the Cmd key and repeatedly tap the arrow hit, the windows
> rotate one after the other until you get through them all and recycle and
> v.v. for the opposite direction arrow.
sound like a good idea.
suggestion:
repost a mail with that title.
open a bug entry.
make noise so that ui aware people get a look :)
> * new windows e.g. workspaces appear wherever they feel like (is it a
> standard location?). It seems to flow better if they appeared where the
> user is already looking i.e. where the active hand is.
Good point.
Same process.
chekc the realstateAgent class
> * Single/multi-line popups - when you're extracting a method via "refactor
> source," you get a huge multi-line popup window, which eats crs, so after
> you enter the name and hit return, you are still in the popup and must take
> your hands off the keyboard to click "ok." Now, fair enough, this might
> actually be a good thing in other circumstances, but - when you reference an
> unknown class, you get an "unknown variable" popup, choose "define new
> class," click through the category selection, you get a one-line popup to
> edit a paragraph-long class definition, lol! So:
> - "refactor source->extract method" should be a single-line popup
> - and, "define new class->edit class definition" should be a multi-liner.
It sucks!!!!
I will integrate lukas changes.
>
> Thanks for an awesome environment, and I will continue to contribute any way
> I can :)
>
> Sean P. DeNigris
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