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> From: Ian Piumarta <[email protected]>
> Date: April 9, 2010 12:35:16 PM GMT+02:00
> To: stephane ducasse <[email protected]>
> Cc: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Vm-dev] Questions, communication and process
> 
> Hi Stef,
> 
> On Apr 9, 2010, at 2:23 AM, stephane ducasse wrote:
> 
>>      - How do people report problems? Just sending an email in the 
>> mailing-list is enough?
> 
> Here are the options, necessarily biased towards my preference which is to 
> try to avoid having to poll for outstanding issues.
> 
> If it's a general problem of installation or bizarre behaviour that differs 
> between platforms, ask for help on the Squeak VM mailing list.
> 
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/vm-dev
> 
> Pharo and Squeak users are EQUALLY WELCOME to report VM issues on that list.  
> Squeak has several people who regularly take the time to forward things from 
> squeak-dev to vm-dev when appropriate.  You might want to encourage the same 
> thing on the Pharo list.  I know for a fact that there are several vm-dev 
> subscribers that monitor the Pharo list.  (You might want to make it clear 
> that Pharo uses the Squeak VM too.  This does not necessarily appear to be 
> universally understood.)
> 
> If it's a Unix-specific problem that you think might be a bug, report it to 
> the above mailing list AND send me email.  Fixes are best submitted as 
> complete modified files (not 'diffs').  (There might well be a way to tell 
> ediff to use diff output directly, but that does not guarantee that your 
> 'original' and my 'original' are in any way related.  Sending whole files is 
> MUCH more robust.)
> 
> If it's Windows-specific, try the above list and Andreas Raab.  For 
> Mac-specific, the above list and John McIntosh.  If it's common code shared 
> by all platforms, especially code generated by VMMaker, send to Dave Lewis 
> and the above list.
> 
> VM bugs can fed to mantis here: bugs.squeak.org
> 
> The people mentioned above probably look at mantis on a regular basis.  
> Anything with more than four legs gives me the heebie-jeebies, which isn't 
> why I don't regularly trawl mantis but it'll do.
> 
>>      - How a fix in one OS is propagated to the others?
> 
> Fixes that affect more than one OS are very often in the common code that is 
> generated automatically and shared between all the platforms.  There is no 
> explicit manual propagation required.  (That being said, the people mentioned 
> above are often in contact on a daily basis.  When co-ordination is required, 
> it will happen.)
> 
> The exception is that some code is shared between Unix and Mac.  John is good 
> at spotting commits from me that affect him, and is good at bugging me when 
> necessary into fixing anything Unixy that might affect him.
> 
>>      - How the user can know that?
> 
> Watch vm-dev for discussions or commit reports that say the issue was fixed.  
> If it is in mantis, it might even get closed too.
> 
> The above reflects how I like to work, and I can only speak for myself.  MPG 
> from the others mentioned above might not be comparable.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ian
> 
> (Feel free to forward, re-post, etc., the above as you see fit.)
> 


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