Be aware (Carla) you don't need to be a letter...it can be the letter
signed, scanned and sent by email. For those who live far away from France
it is easier and cheaper ;)

Mariano

ps: don't tell my wife I am here hahahah

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote:

>
> On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Germán Arduino wrote:
>
> > The letter is on the way.
> >
> > A first question, to help with unstable I should use it as it comes
> > (with no added packages) or I can install somethings to make the
> > environment more comfortable (as shout for example) ?
>
> the way you want but if you load packages you should pay attention that you
> changes do not impact them by accident.
> Ideally we would like to have metacello to manage core and the process
> would be
>
>        - take latest core
>        - update
>                -> get Pharo with maintained Pharo package: sound
>        ------------------------------------------------------- this phase
> should be done for us on a server with a hudson cron like job
>
>        - you change
>        - you publish changes
>        --------------------------------------------------------
>        we take the current unstable core + packages
>        - integrate your changes
>        -> produce new version of packages + new metacello configuration
>
> Now since loading code is too slow we have to pay attention and avoid to
> frantically remove packages from the image
> because they can desync too easily when we do system wide changes.
>
> So for simple things just take the latest unstable and publish changes
>
>
>
>
> > Germán.
> >
> > 2010/4/15 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr>:
> >> Thanks!
> >> As I said, 30 min are enough
> >> Stef
> >>
> >> On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:25 PM, Germán Arduino wrote:
> >>
> >>> ok, my signed agreement is leaving today for France.
> >>>
> >>> I will try to start understanding how is the contribution process in
> >>> Pharo and playing a bit with unstable.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately I've very little free time, but still, will try to help.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2010/4/15 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr>:
> >>>> Hi guys
> >>>>
> >>>> Let me reiterate it:
> >>>>
> >>>>        - We need you!
> >>>>        - 75 % of the issues on the bug tracker are simple.
> >>>>        - BTW how did we learn stuff, by reading code and learning. I'm
> not smart I'm just a tedious learner
> >>>>        I can any opportunity to learn something new.
> >>>>        - if you spend 30 min a week, YOU CAN get an IMPACT!
> >>>>        - if pharo is important for you then 30 min in a good
> investment
> >>>>        - every single LITTLE bugs fixed and improvement is IMPORTANT
> >>>>        - we do not want the final latest coolest superhyper cool and
> hyper clever fixes!
> >>>>        - we accept little improvement
> >>>>        - in UNSTABLE we have the right to push not 100% finish code
> >>>>
> >>>> Now think what YOU can do for pharo. Because Yes YOU can
> >>>>        - screencast
> >>>>        - checking tests (yesterday I moved
> CompiledMethodAsStringTest>>testPrint to CompiledMethodTest>>testPrint) Yeah
> hyper difficult
> >>>>        - Class comments: look at the URI class comment
> >>>>        - blogging
> >>>>        - tweeting
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We should slowly change our process so that Pharo continue to evolve
> even if we disappear on the moon.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I asked marcus to focus on the newcompiler and stop fixing little
> bugs because we want to make progress on other fronts.
> >>>>
> >>>> We want newcompiler -  we want the newcompiler -  we want the
> newcompiler and fixing it and fixing its interface.
> >>>> We want Helvetia hooks -We want Helvetia hooks.
> >>>> We want a new package object (but I do not find time to code argh).
> >>>>
> >>>> Stef
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
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