On Jun 9, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:

> Stef, I think you misunderstood me. I didn't imply that we need to fix the 
> 179 issues for 1.1. But what we should really do is to identify whether there 
> is any show stopper.

sure :)

> I started going through the 1.1-tagged issues yesterday and I have moved 
> stuff that is not critical to 1.2 (or close what doesn't need any further 
> action).

Yes I saw and I started to do that a while ago too.

> Maybe it would be better not to tag issues with 1.2 unless we know that we 
> want to take them into account for 1.2. Else we end up being in the same 
> situation as now.

may be :)


> 
> Also, people who know there is something that really needs to be fixed for a 
> 1.1 release should speak up now.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> 
> 
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 08:03 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>> 
>>> I think it's a bad idea to just switch the downloads from 1.0 to 1.1 now. 
>>> We don't even have a release candidate yet, hence 1.1 hasn't seen much 
>>> testing. 1.1 may be ok for personal use but is it also safe to be deployed 
>>> on a mission critical system? I'm all for short release cycles, but please 
>>> don't take such shortcuts. A high quality is really important if we want to 
>>> support the companies using Pharo and attract new ones.
>> 
>> We can keep 1.0 download but we will issue 1.1 rc now. 
>> 
>>> So the next steps should be: identifying the critical issues (currently 
>>> there are 179 open issues tagged 1.1!), then fixing them, then we do a 
>>> first RC.
>> We will not fix all these issues but moved them to 1.2.
>> Since most of them exit in 1.0 and you can work with them I do not see why 
>> suddenly we should fix them in 1.1 especially
>> just before the release. So stability also means that you should not change 
>> the system at wrong moment. 
>> And now this is not the moment to change it.
>> 
>> Stef
>> 
>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adrian
>>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2010, at 15:45 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Niko Schwarz 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Of course not. Just switch the default download (the big one, all over
>>>>> the site) site to 1.1.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just suggest to switch from 1.0 to 1.1 as stable at the same time
>>>>> that we switch from 1.1 to 1.2 for development.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think this is a good idea.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Then we never have 3
>>>>> "current" versions at once.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Niko
>>>>> 
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