Hi,

Strange. I thought we already fixed this pb.
I'll look at it. 

Noury
On 25 août 2010, at 19:14, John M McIntosh wrote:

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>> From: Marcin Tustin <[email protected]>
>> Date: August 25, 2010 2:31:16 AM PDT
>> To: John McIntosh <[email protected]>
>> Cc: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome 
>> <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Invoking external processes/IPC
>> 
>> I'm not sure that I would class the fact that Alien wants the Special 
>> Objects Array to be bigger than it actually is to be a mere installation 
>> issue.
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:13 AM, John McIntosh 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ask on the Pharo list for help or instruction on loading alien into pharo, I 
>> didn't write any of the loader code so I can't deal with the fact it may or 
>> may not be broken.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On 2010-08-25, at 1:30 AM, Marcin Tustin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> John,
>>>  
>>> Do you have any intention of commenting on this, even to confirm that you 
>>> are content for Alien to be incompatible with current versions of Pharo?
>>>  
>>> Marcin
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Marcin Tustin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> That is the installation recipe I was following, as should have been 
>>> apparent from my description of the process followed given in my previous 
>>> email. My problem occurred on the first step after loading the 
>>> ConfigurationOfAlien package.
>>> 
>>> For completeness, I tried loading ConfigurationOfAlien using Gofer, and the 
>>> exact same thing occurred. I also note that Gofer>>addPackage is deprecated.
>>> 
>>> Marcin
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:40 PM, John M McIntosh 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> LIkely the installation process is wrong, look at the 
>>> http://squeaksource.com/@EGv-75Ct7JEKFz5m/rnvjMef8
>>> and follow the instructions for installing there. 
>>> 
>>> On 2010-08-23, at 2:08 PM, Marcin Tustin wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Following Mariano's advice, I just tried installing Alien (using 
>>>> Pharo-1.1-11406-rc3 with the Seaside RC3 image; this is a sane version, 
>>>> not affected by previous package loading problems).
>>>> 
>>>> I loaded ConfigurationOfAlien (ConfigurationOfAlien-KenTreis.26) using 
>>>> Monticello, then executed ConfigurationOfAlien loadCore (as per the 
>>>> instructions). That resulted in an error: 
>>>> 'SystemDictionary>>recreateSpecialObjectsArray appears incompatible' 
>>>> raised from ensureInSpecialObjectsArray. The cause appears to be that 
>>>> Alien wants to be in the special objects array at 53, but the array is 
>>>> created to be size 50. 
>>>> 
>>>> Proceeding through the error results in the predictable subscript out of 
>>>> bounds error.
>>>> 
>>>> running loadCore once more (second time) does the same thing. Doing it a 
>>>> third time results in a message not understood 
>>>> 'initScannerForTokenization' from Parser>>ParseSelector:.
>>>> 
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Marcin Tustin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Mariano,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for this. I belive CommandShell depends on OSProcess. I am using 
>>>> windows, so I guess neither is a runner anyway. I'll try FFI/AlienFFI.
>>>> 
>>>> Marcin
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Marcin Tustin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm an occasional squeak/pharo dabbler, and I'm wondering what the 
>>>> recommended way of interacting with external processes is these days?
>>>> 
>>>> Should I go through the process of getting all the VMMaker and OSProcess 
>>>> stuff, and build the OSProcess plugin, or is there some other way in Pharo 
>>>> to interact with the OS environment?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi. Which OS are you? because I think OSProcess is not working on Windows. 
>>>> And I also think there are binaries for it, so you don't need to generate 
>>>> .c from VMMaker neither compile c code to binary. 
>>>> But I may be wrong. 
>>>> 
>>>> CommandShell ?
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe using normal FFI or AlienFFI? They will let you invoke shared 
>>>> libraries of the OS from Pharo.
>>>>   
>>>> Alternatively, are people doing something (easy) with IPC mechanisms like 
>>>> named sockets or TCP streams?
>>>> 
>>>> The "project" I'm working on is putting figlet on a website, just for fun.
>>>> 
>>>> Marcin
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