Something produces too much garbage.
It could be anything.
But most of the times, the cause of sluggines is finalization process.

On 16 October 2010 16:37, Nicolas Cellier
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I can feel this slugginess too, and we should fix that for good.
>
> A clue: in Squeak trunk, here are the VM stats:
> uptime                  0h7m59s
> memory                  59,647,648 bytes
>        old                     48,744,032 bytes (81.7%)
>        young           545,352 bytes (0.9%)
>        used            49,289,384 bytes (82.6%)
>        free            10,358,264 bytes (17.4%)
> GCs                             288 (1665ms between GCs)
>        full                    0 totalling 0ms (0.0% uptime)
>        incr            288 totalling 486ms (0.0% uptime), avg 2.0ms
>        tenures         15 (avg 19 GCs/tenure)
> Since last view -7,895
>        uptime          71.2s
>        full                    -15 totalling -1,576ms (-2.0% uptime), avg 
> 105.0ms
>        incr            -7880 totalling -1,952ms (-3.0% uptime), avg
>        tenures         -548 (avg 14 GCs/tenure)
>
> In Pharo:
> uptime                  0h6m48s
> memory                  29,690,612 bytes
>        old                     25,210,060 bytes (84.9%)
>        young           252,096 bytes (0.8%)
>        used            25,462,156 bytes (85.80000000000001%)
>        free            4,228,456 bytes (14.200000000000001%)
> GCs                             4,969 (82ms between GCs)
>        full                    3 totalling 834ms (0.2% uptime), avg 278.0ms
>        incr            4966 totalling 6,280ms (1.5% uptime), avg 1.3ms
>        tenures         75 (avg 66 GCs/tenure)
> Since last view 4,777 (85ms between GCs)
>        uptime          404.5s
>        full                    1 totalling -285ms (-0.1% uptime), avg -285.0ms
>        incr            4776 totalling 6,088ms (1.5% uptime), avg 1.3ms
>        tenures         75 (avg 63 GCs/tenure)
>
> A GC every 82ms, 20x+ more GC than trunk... Something is going wrong.
> Could it be object creation at each event or something like that?
>
> Nicolas
>
> 2010/10/16 Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]>:
>> Bart,
>>
>> On 16 Oct 2010, at 13:48, Bart Veenstra wrote:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I have been working with Pharo for almost a month now, and I suspect
>>> that the performance is degrading fast. UI tasks takes several seconds
>>> to react to my keyboard.
>>>
>>> At work we use VAST and I have experience with VW as well and those
>>> smalltaks react to my keyboard and mouse actions instantly. But Pharo
>>> works very sluggish.
>>>
>>> My image is about 130MB because I have loaded all dutch postcode in
>>> memory, but that should not affect the performance of general
>>> operations like typing with the keyboard. I am not a fast typer, but
>>> sometimes it takes seconds to show my keyboard input. I can't use the
>>> down key to select the right method from suggestions, because it seems
>>> to lockup completely.
>>>
>>> Are there ways to speedup Pharo? I would love to use cogVM but I
>>> haven't got gemtools working on it...
>>>
>>> Will upgrading to 1.1.1 fix these issues?
>>>
>>> Is my OS (Windows 7-64bit) causing these issues?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Bart
>>
>> I am just guessing here, but I would suspect the slowdown to be related to 
>> completion/syntax coloring issues.
>> You could try a pharo core image or one of lukas's builds (take development 
>> or seaside from http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/).
>> In a large/old image, there could be lots of issues, of course.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Sven
>>
>>
>>
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