On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Pavel Krivanek
<[email protected]>wrote:

> No, but I'll try...
>
>
If you are going to do that, you should see the Graig Latta work. I copy
paste an email from me and him:



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Hi Graig. First, let me apologize for sending you this private email. Please
tell me if it is correct.

I am quite interested in having a system similar to Spoon. Actually, I want
something more related to LOOM, but Spoon is also part of my "state of the
art" ;)

I saw that your visualizations are very very cool. I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwidGFkn4Q
and then I see this link: http://www.caida.org/tools/visualization/walrus/
and finally I see
http://netjam.org/spoon/objects.graph.gz

I am working with Pharo for the moment. I wanted to ask if do you think it
is possible to make your kind of visualizations for a PharoCore image. Do I
need a specific VM?  what should I do/code in the image side?  Any hints is
more than welcome.

regarding the objects.graph.gz, you autogenerated that from the smalltlak
image and then use it as input for walrus ?

Thank you very much in advance,

Mariano

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Sorry but walrus says "Walrus is a standalone application and not an API. It
cannot be incorporated into other applications."

So...how could you do it?   maybe because the graph are text files, you
checked them and then tried to autogenerate one from an smalltalk image?

thanks again.


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Hi Mariano!

    Yes, I learned the Walrus file format, and generated Walrus files
from the Smalltalk virtual machine simulator. It's odd that you couldn't
load the objects.graph into Walrus... perhaps Walrus has changed in the
meantime?

    Making these files from the simulator doesn't require any special
virtual machine. I believe I included the Walrus support in the last
Spoon release. Please let me know if you can't find it.


    thanks for writing!



> -- Pavel
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Wow, this is really cool.
> >
> > Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz?
> >
> > Lukas
> >
> > On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the
> >> image content). You can see it here:
> >>
> >> http://goo.gl/nY2o
> >>
> >> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0
> >> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2
> >>
> >> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> -- Pavel
> >>
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