Em 24/11/2010 09:39, Janko Mivšek < janko.miv...@eranova.si > escreveu:
> I'm pretty sure that any plugin based solution will have a dead-end, > as all Smalltalk plugins so far had. There are just too many > browsers to support out there. FireFox, IE, Safari, Android, > Symbian, ... We are too small community to afford maintaining a > plugin on so many different browsers. I can agree with that, giving the past history of Smalltalk plugins. Besides, we've to accept a simple fact of life: for the end user there is not any apparent benefit of such additional plugin. Or, in other words: There is no compelling reason for an end user feel the need of an additional piece of SW to be installed in his/her computer, even harder if in a corporative environment where you have to get permits from sysadmins, etc. > Therefore I see the only viable long-term solution a Smalltalk on > top of JavaScript VM. Yes, I know, this is a very limited > environment for Smalltalk standards, but it is the least evil from > all choices we have. Except if this technology has something different from present state of art, this new layer (a.k.a. indirection) will have the single effect of bringing the smalltalk code to appear slower than 'native' javascript, without any benefit to the end user. > We actually have some effords done or underway already, like ST2JS, I understand these are a different beast: they 'translate' Smalltalk code into 'equivalent' javascript to be fed to the browsers. > Clamato, This is an hybrid, but basically tries to emulate some 'dialect' of Smalltalk in javascript. In the end, you need to master a nth language which is not nor javascript nor smalltalk anymore. Again, if the advantages of such approach are quickly accrued the additional effort to do so will deter the widespread of the technology. [snipped] my 0.019999.... -- Cesar Rabak
