On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
On 09 Dec 2010, at 20:39, Eliot Miranda wrote:
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:14 AM, stephane ducasse <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi guys
When I see that. I would really like to see how we can create something around
the cloud. We have a lot of assets.
Does anybody have some interest bootstrapping a business around that?
_very_ I'd love to do high-quality VM work funded in this kind of context.
Isn't / shouldn't Cog already (be) a high quality VM then ?
I don't think (I am actually pretty sure) that Ruby has a good VM, Smalltalk's
is way better (many more decades of experience, from the times when hardware
mattered). Up until very recently (and even after the RoR hype started) they
had no unicode support and no multithreading. Even now, they always (have to)
deploy clusters of multiple VMs to scale. [On the other hand, this makes every
deploy better scaleable because they have to do it from day one].
Seaside can do all that too (the scaling/clustering), it is sometimes little
things that cause problems. For example, many people have tried but very little
have succeeding in building a VM themselves that is as fast as the 'official'
ones. Headless support is another one. Better sockets and streaming would also
help.
What's wrong with sockets on the VM side?
Levente
Cloud support is actually lot's of Unix/Linux level work combined with
automation. Smalltalk, Ruby, Lisp, Python, Java, .Net or even C, it doesn't
matter much.
But don't get me wrong, I do think Smalltalk has an interesting future. It is
still one of the nicest languages/environments/IDE's/communities to work in.
And Pharo has been a great step in modernizing Smalltalk. And Cog just made
everything incredibly much faster.
Sven
