On 22 December 2010 11:01, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Dec 22, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Chip Nowacek wrote: > >> >> Thanks for your help so far. >> >> Now that I've had a chance to get my feet wet, start an eval of VW, watch >> Peter Fisk's progress, etc. I've hit a scary point. To go the distance, my >> app needs the maturity and capacity of Squeak/Pharo/VW(?). And, near- and >> long-term, it needs an elegant, cogent, captivating, intelligent, engaging, >> interactive front end. I've considered doing it in Flash or Silverlight or >> AIR (fat client) or straight JavaScript - though splitting the tiers and >> forgetting the backend seems like a lot of deferred pain. I know I have to >> worry about deployment. I am. I'd rather do it through the browser. And, >> even though DabbleDB and others are some of the coolest apps ever, I don't >> see Seaside cutting the front-end mustard (at least the way I understand >> things at this point). > > what is specific about your app? > >> I sure wish there was a lightening-fast, >> browser-based, morphic-3-supporting VM so I could run ST on both tiers. A >> sexy, Smalltalk Lively-Kernel. I'm still trying to get Clamato to work. >> >> So, in your professional, experienced opinions, can I get a front end on >> Pharo (either in-image via Rome/Athens or some cooler-than-I've-seen, >> through-the-browser front end)? > > it depends what you need. > Our plans with igor are to produce a nice API to access Cairo and openVG but > this will not happen before 3-4 months. >
yes, don't leave from the radar, because eventually i want to make modern, nice & sexy UI, using vector-graphics engine backend. Sure thing, if you wanna help in this regard - you're welcome, because this field is VAST and there is enough work for 10 people, not just me alone. :) >> With all due respect to the Founding >> Fathers, I can't do eToys. Should I just do the whole client tier in in JS >> for the prototype and then hook to Seaside later? > > did you see nextPlan? > Because they generate svg too? > >> >> Any thoughts would be deeply appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chip >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/big-ui-decisions-tp3160359p3160359.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
