> Hi. Today, we have a good way to manage packages/projects (Metacello) and a 
> good way to automatically build images (Hudson).
> 
> Several months ago, I suggested to remove the PharoWeb image for several 
> reasons (I won't mention them here, check in the mailing list).
> 
> People have different ideas of what to put in dev images and we cannot all 
> agree. So, I won't say anything new, but just suggest something:
> 
> Pharo1.2 is beta and it is almost there. We shouldn't change it that much 
> before the release. So, I would include in the Pharo1.2 image what we were 
> including more or less in Pharo1.1.
> 
> The dev image is being built using ConfigurationOfPharo. This conf, has 
> defined different groups, included the 'Dev' group which us used for building 
> the dev image. Now, what about adding to ConfugurationOfPharo, much more 
> projects, and creating groups for them. Then, with Hudson we can REALLY EASY 
> build another image, but not with the 'Dev' group, but with 'Web' for 
> example. Web is just an example, but we can put as much as we want. 
> 
> I would create a PharoWeb which can contain ALL seaside related stuff (core, 
> addons, pier, margitte, blah). We can use ConfigurationOfSeaside. The same 
> for Aida. We can also add WebClient, Zn, seaside testing, or whatever web 
> related you want. 

Not you mariano.
Somebody that needs the web stuff.
To make sure that the system works people should have the energy to maintain a 
config.
Fix the conflicts....

> Then we can create a PharoExtras, where we can put (in addition to pharoDev) 
> what it is now in PharoNonCore, plus MemoryMonitor, XMLSupport, Mocker, 
> AutoTest, KeyBindings, etc etc etc. Things that are not "dev tools" but that 
> they are working in pharo and that would be welcome for newcomers. 

Keybinding should probably be evaluated and part of it deeply integrated in the 
system

> Last comment is that it would be nice if all this can be done using the new 
> symbolicVersions of the new Metacello version. 

Yes

> 
> what do you think ?

What I said before. Let us focus on the infrastructure so that other people can 
join and maintain their own assets.

> cheers
> 
> mariano
> 
> ps: if you like it, we need help to update ConfigurationOfPharo and probably 
> all its referenced confs (to use the stale symbolic version)
Exactly :)


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