But now if the server of lukas is eaten by monsters during the night or if you don't have your cool distributions containing all the nice packages of the version you want to load you are toasted. Simple just toasted. So when I program with pharo 1.1 I just want to get the work done and load the components loading in pharo1.1 so I open the repositoryOfTheDsitibution and I load the tools I need.
If I need something more advanced I decide to go in the project and check if I can load the version may be developed on 1.2, 1,3 in my version. Or I change and switch to that distribution. So the act of publishing a configuration should not be just a copy this is a publication for inclusion in distribution. Stef > >> But that kind of duplication will lead to having always not up to date >> configurations... >> >> Why not having something like a meta "configuration" (I'm not thinking >> in a metacello config, but maybe) that knows which are the current >> configurations and where to find them? And that config would let us >> build tools on top of it... > > Agreed! > >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Dale Henrichs <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I think that the a good working model is to store the >> ConfigurationOfXXX in the project repository along with the project >> mcz files. >> >> When a new version is released the configuration should be copied to >> MetacelloRepository for the Pharo and Squeak community. I have a >> GemSource MetacelloRepository where I put copies of configurations >> that have been ported to GemStone .... when a new version for >> GemStone is available. >> >> I would not recommend that configurations be removed from >> MetacelloRepository as that could break existing configurations that >> expect to find the configuration there. So if it is found that there >> are out-of-date configurations in MetacelloRepository, a new version >> of the configuration should be copied into MetacelloRepository. >> >> Now that Metacello is more established, I don't think that it is >> critical to require that all configurations be copied to >> MetacelloRepository. >> >> It still is useful to have a sort of clearinghouse for >> configurations and until a better solution comes along it serves >> that purpose. BTW, I think Stef has plans to provide better >> solutions for Pharo... >> >> Dale >> >> >> >> On 01/19/2011 06:12 AM, laurent laffont wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Norbert Hartl >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> >> On 19.01.2011, at 14:30, laurent laffont wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Norbert Hartl >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> It depends where you look at. >> ConfigurationOfXMLSupport exists >> in MetacelloRepository as well as in XMLSupport. The >> latter >> one being the official one, the former one being very >> outdated. My sugesstion would be to remove >> ConfigurationOfXMLSupport from MetacelloRepository >> to lower >> the confusion. >> >> >> Personnally I always look in MetacelloRepository, this >> should be >> the reference IMHO. >> >> Laurent, >> >> I think it is up to the maintainers where to put those >> files. And in >> the XMLSupport case the decision was made deliberately not >> to put it >> in MetacelloRepository but in XMLSupport. The only thing I >> want to >> avoid is having multiple different files floating around >> that are >> edited in an inconsistent way. >> >> >> I thought that all ConfigurationOfXXX working for Pharo should >> be put in >> MetacelloRepository so we have a central place to look at. >> >> But I may be wrong. Mariano ? Dale ? >> >> Laurent >> >> >> Norbert >> >> >> Norbert >> >> On 19.01.2011, at 13:18, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> > The last version 1.1.6 is marked as #release. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Doru >> > >> > >> > On 19 Jan 2011, at 12:26, laurent laffont wrote: >> > >> >> I put ConfigurationOfXMLSupport version 1.0 because >> blessing was #release. But I agree to change. >> >> >> >> Laurent >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Marcus Denker >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >> >> >>> Indeed, this is a problem for Moose in general. We depend >> on XMLSupport, but now we cannot update it in >> PharoDev. I >> would also strongly support the idea of removing >> XMLSupport >> from PharoDev. >> >>> >> >> >> >> What would be important: we need the latest version in >> Pharo 1.2... else how can we ever have a version >> where the >> tests are green? >> >> (not of XML, but in general) >> >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Doru >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 19 Jan 2011, at 11:32, Fabrizio Perin wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hi, >> >>>> >> >>>> I have a problem with the XMLSupport version from >> Pharo 1.2. >> >>>> >> >>>> The problem is that I need to work with one of the last >> version of XMLSupport but in the pharo image 1.2 is >> loaded an >> old version of XMLSupport (I mean a version from Jan >> 2010). I >> did try to load a newer version of XMLSupport using >> ConfigurationOfXMLSupport but some errors make this >> operation >> impossible. >> >>>> So either Pharo-dev 1.2 load a newer (possibly the last) >> version of XMLSupport by default or Pharo-dev 1.2 >> should not >> load XMLSupport at all. >> >>>> >> >>>> I think that doesn't make sense to use by default such an >> old version, also considering that the last >> XMLSupport has >> nice and useful features like the >> XMLPluggableElementFactory. >> >>>> >> >>>> By avoiding to load XMLSupport in Pharo-dev 1.2 by >> default you let people free to use the version that >> they like. >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks, >> >>>> >> >>>> Fabrizio >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> >> <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> >> >> >>> >> >>> "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> <http://www.marcusdenker.de/> >> >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> >> <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> >> >> > >> > "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, >> > you will end up with a messy haircut." >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
