I would like to add to this discussion the following: 1) Are we willing to create a Pharo only solution to a GUI designer? Or:
2) Can we think of a Smalltalk wide new solution which could be standard and flavour agnostic, so once a programmer learns to use it, its knowledge will be useful to any Smalltalk? 3) Do we fell we should lead the way inventing a new GUI design approach, or the ones in market suffice and nullPointer's view that the designer is a commodity which we should make use of as other thing we do in Pharo, so steering us to concentrate in a set of widgets which those mainstream GUI design expect? I think if we invest in answering these questions we could arrive quickly to a feasible plan. my 0.019999 -- Cesar Rabak Em 14/02/2011 06:10, Geert Claes < [email protected] > escreveu: I'll leave in the middle whether or not the "Morphic UI Designer" is the right solution for Pharo, but looking at the number of posts in this thread I do have a feeling that: 1. most do agree that a better way to create the user interface really is needed 2. there are strong opinions on how this UI designer should and/or should not be implemented As most applications require a UI, having a powerful UI builder is extremely important for any development environment to succeed. If Pharo were to have an intuitive UI builder, I think even more people would give Pharo a go and probably improve Pharo's existing development environment along the way. Göran just constructively summarized and grouped some groups and optiobs for the "how". So rather than arguing what "not" to do, let's try and focus on how it will be done and who is able to help. Having said all that, I think Smalltalk could benefit even more if Smalltalk had a powerful UI builder for web applications, but I guess that's outside Pharo's scope and is something the frameworks like AIDA, Seaside or Iliad need to address. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/A-new-GUI-visual-designer-tp3067111p3304566.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
