we should have that in our success stories. Stef
Begin forwarded message: > From: Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> > Date: April 9, 2011 10:25:39 AM GMT+02:00 > To: Seaside - general discussion <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Seaside] Should I become a Seasider? > Reply-To: Seaside - general discussion <[email protected]> > > > On 09 Apr 2011, at 09:35, Johan Brichau wrote: > >> Well, to make a long story short, we did exactly that 2 years ago: >> www.inceptive.be >> Our two core projects are built using Seaside. One of them is already >> public: www.yesplan.be. The second one is going public by summer. >> >> In one project, we got started explicitly because we were offering a >> Seaside-based solution. The customer had very bad experiences with >> traditional software development houses and was explicitly looking for an >> agile team using a dynamic language to do the job. So, it's fair to say that >> this was a unique opportunity. However, Seaside and Smalltalk did deliver! >> In only a single man-year of working hours (not counting the designer), we >> had produced a working application that other "established" development >> houses had failed to deliver. Whenever we show the functionality of the >> application to partnering software producers, they are amazed by the >> productivity we had gotten. Ah... and it should mention that one person in >> our team of three had never done any Seaside.... >> >> But, in our second Seaside project, the customers don't care at all what >> technology is used. They want a good product! And, in my opinion, that is >> true for many other potential projects we have down the pipeline. For us, >> Seaside and Smalltalk are powerful tools we can use to leverage a better >> price and better product in comparison to competitors. In the end, that is >> what customers want. >> >> In other projects, we are exposed to .net, ios, objective-c, etc... and I >> generally miss a lot of the power and simplicity of Smalltalk. There is a >> lot of power in Smalltalk and the Smalltalk community when you look at >> Gemstone, Seaside, Pharo, Squeak, Visualworks, Cog, etc... ! >> >> There are (of course) occasions when I curse on Smalltalk in general: the >> lack of (or difficult) interoperability with non-Smalltalk based libraries >> and the relative small size of Smalltalk libraries is often the biggest >> hurdle. For every project we intend to do in Smalltalk, we have to carefully >> analyze the requirements and see if we can meet all of them in the Smalltalk >> environment. MS-Office interoperability, for example, is a nightmare. >> >> Bottomline: Seaside and Smalltalk are currently our core technologies but >> not our *only* technologies. You cannot start a business on a single >> technology and doing business is more than technology.... there are many >> factors playing a role. > > Yesplan seems very impressive, Johan, this is really looking more and more > like a super Success Story. > I absolutely agree with your points/analysis: technology does matter, as does > the team, but a great product/solution is the final delivery. > Thanks for sharing all this! > > Sven > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >
