On 22 April 2011 10:32, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Alain, > > Thanks. I would indeed be interested in your compiled VM. > > Regarding running it on Mac, indeed I can do that, but I will have to wait > until next week to get access to the image due to holidays. > > Another bit of information is that the image was built and saved without a > problem on the same machine where now it does not work anymore. >
pass the image to me. i can play with it on windoze. > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 21 Apr 2011, at 23:52, Alain_Rastoul wrote: > >> (And of course Tudor, I forgot to mention it but I can send you this vm if >> you need) >> >> "Alain_Rastoul" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le >> message de news: [email protected]... >> I thought he was able to start it on a Mac that's why I suggested to this on >> a Mac and see if memory consumption was reduced. >> BTW I have rebuild a cog vm with 2Gb ram for MAX_MEMORY and it runs ok on my >> 1Gb netbook >> >> "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de >> news:BANLkTikuk1jRV34=u2pztfx5+2qwgjrbcq-jsoawuisxosn+bqq9rb...@public.gmane.org... >> Alain: as far as I understood, he cannot even start the image...so he won't >> be able to open a workspace and evaluate something. >> >> Doru, if you can evaluate something in a workspace, you may also try >> SpaceTally new printSpaceAnalysis >> and then check the STspace.text that is next to the image. That way you acn >> see if there are certain classes that have a lot of instances. >> >> Can you evaluate "Smalltalk garbageCollect " and tell me the answer? just >> curious.... >> >> thanks >> >> mariano >> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Alain_Rastoul <[email protected]> wrote: >> Mmm, you are right, in old squeak versions, there was a parameter >> -memory: xx (xx inMB) >> but I don't know if it is still in use. >> >> BTW there must be some hanging references in memory and perhaps youd should >> do some PointerFinder on it. >> A very handy script I found (on Ramon Leon's blog or elsewhere I don't >> remember) could help you. >> You can try it in a workspace and see if it reduces your memory usage (after >> save and quit) >> comment unknown or unwanted commands : >> | tasks | >> tasks := OrderedCollection new >> add: [MCFileBasedRepository flushAllCaches]; >> add: [WARegistry clearAllHandlers]; >> " add: [SMSqueakMap default clearCaches];" >> add: [Smalltalk removeEmptyMessageCategories]; >> add: [Workspace >> allSubInstancesDo: [:each | each setBindings: >> Dictionary new]]; >> " add: [Undeclared removeUnreferencedKeys];" >> " add: [Categorizer sortAllCategories];" >> add: [ODBCConnection cleanAll]; >> add: [Symbol compactSymbolTable]; >> " add: [ReleaseBuilderDeveloper new fixObsoleteReferences];" >> add: [Smalltalk garbageCollectMost]; >> add: [Smalltalk garbageCollect ]; >> add: [Smalltalk garbageCollect ]; >> add: [Smalltalk garbageCollect ]; >> add: [EventManager actionMaps keys do: [:each| EventManager >> releaseActionMapFor: each] ]; >> add: [Debugger closeAllDebuggers]; >> add:[Debugger allInstances do: [ :d | d release ] ]; >> >> yourself. >> UIManager default >> informUserDuring: [:bar | tasks >> do: [:block | >> bar value: block printString. >> [block value] >> on: Error >> do: [:error | Transcript show: error; >> cr]]]. >> >> Regards >> Alain >> >> "Tudor Girba" <[email protected]> a écrit >> dans le message de news: >> 6aa1f065-3996-433b-ab7c-1640c08d5a7b-re5jqeeqqe9ui4fbrnn...@public.gmane.org >> Hi, >> >> Should I to understand that the only way to enable more memory is to >> recompile the VM? Does that mean that there is no way to pass this >> information as a parameter like we can on Mac? >> >> The problem is that I cannot recompile the VM because I have no access to a >> Windows machine. Is there one available that provides more memory? >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 21 Apr 2011, at 22:09, Alain_Rastoul wrote: >> >> > Hi Tudor, >> > >> > There is a constant in sqWin32Alloc.h (platforms\win32\vm) : >> > #define MAX_VIRTUAL_MEMORY 512*1024*1024 >> > you can change it to whatever you want and rebuild the vm, >> > for exzmple give all the available memory less 256 M . >> > >> > HTH >> > >> > Regards >> > Alain >> > >> > "Tudor Girba" <[email protected]> a >> > écrit >> > dans le message de news: >> > 03B9389F-C719-44D0-B106-2AC78B120F56-Re5JQEeQqe9Ui4FbrNnSJA-XMD5yJDbdMRG2NFembrH+g@public.gmane.orgorg >> > Hi, >> > >> > We have no specific startUp: methods in Moose. In any case, the issue with >> > opening the image does not seem to be related to startUp:. >> > >> > Is it really true that the Cog VM is limited to 512MB of memory? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Doru >> > >> > >> > On 21 Apr 2011, at 14:27, Luc Fabresse wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Doru, >> >> >> >> 2011/4/21 Tudor Girba >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 21, 2011, at 14:06, Mariano Martinez Peck >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Tudor Girba >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> Hi again, >> >>>> >> >>>> I did not say what the problem was :). The problem was that when >> >>>> opening the image on Windows, he got a Space is low message and the >> >>>> image was not usable (see attachment). >> >>> >> >>> That's weird. Does moose have something on the startup list? something >> >>> that can be bothering there? >> >> >> >> Not that I know of. Is there a way to check this? >> >> >> >> Classes should be registered using Smalltlak addToStartUpList: aClass >> >> Then aClass class>>#startUp: is executed at startup. >> >> So implementors of #startUp: on Moose classes should give you the answer. >> >> >> >> #Luc >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually, using exactly the same process some days ago he produced an >> >> image of 190MB. This one works just fine on Windows. The only difference >> >> between the two is the size of the loaded data. >> >> >> >> It would be really bad news if the Windows vm would be so severely >> >> limited >> >> in terms of memory. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Doru >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> On Mac it worked just fine. >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> Doru >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 21 Apr 2011, at 12:52, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hi, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I received a question from someone running a 200MB image on Windows >> >>>>> using Cog 2361. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> If I open the image on Mac, it works just fine. Unfortunately, I do >> >>>>> not have a Windows machine around, and I cannot test but I believe it >> >>>>> should be solvable by increasing the allocated memory. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Mac, I would run it with: ./Croquet -memory 1500m >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Can anyone help me with the right incantation for Windows? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Cheers, >> >>>>> Doru >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "What we can governs what we wish." >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> <Space is low.png> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >> >>>> >> >>>> "Yesterday is a fact. >> >>>> Tomorrow is a possibility. >> >>>> Today is a challenge." >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Mariano >> >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > www.tudorgirba.com >> > >> > "Beauty is where we see it." >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, >> you will end up with a messy haircut." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "We can create beautiful models in a vacuum. > But, to get them effective we have to deal with the inconvenience of reality." > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
