S, [email protected] piše: > I am no squeak/pharo/cuis master, > > but in my opinion the best approach is still "objects as servers" > - no matter what html6 will be able to do, it won't be enough. > > however html5+js means we can leverage ajax - and provide illusion > of objects as servers - and that's cool. > > so: > > 1. yes > 2. not sure, I'd rather spend energy on something different.
Remember that we the web guys are spending energy close to that goal for quite a while already. The Iliad/Aida (bit less Seaside) component model is close to what Morphic is, as far I know Morphic. And with Jtalk we can cover JavaScript from Smalltalk code too. Add the open-source and portable WebKit [1] based foundation like many web browsers have and we are there! So, if we point ourselves to this direction, for sure someone will come with a courage to experiment in approximately this way: - WebKit based foundation - Iliad/Aida component model adopted to Morphic on top - Jtalk for running JavaScript from Smalltalk - Squeak/Pharo image with more or less unchanged tools So, we switch one level higher in running Squeak/Pharo GUI: from bare operating system's graphic/windowing support to WebKit based HTML5/CSS/JavaScript one. With HTML5 Canvas and WebGL for HW optimized graphics,... Janko [1] http://www.webkit.org/ > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:41:45 +0200, Janko Mivšek > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> In light of recent Microsoft surprising U-turn announcement [1] that in >> Windows 8 it swithes to HTML5 (HTML5+CSS+JavaScript) instead of .NET+WPF >> and Silverlight for desktop app development it is IMO a right time to >> think about: >> >> 1. is this a clear signal that HTML5 for ALL apps, both desktop and the >> web is inevitable? >> 2. is this a clear signal that we need to rebuild Morphic on top of >> HTML+CSS, to leverage all Morphic advantages and come back >> to bleeding edge again? >> >> I think yes. What Squeak/Pharo/Cuis GUI masters say? >> >> Best regards >> Janko >> >> [1] >> http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/html5-centric-windows-8-leaves-microsoft-developers-horrified.ars >> -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si
