:)
And this is already fixed and integrated :)
Thanks you all.

Stef
On Sep 9, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Henrik provided a better answer than mine:
> 
> On 9 Sep 2011, at 14:44, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
> 
>> Which is why it was changed, after discussion with Lukas.
>> It only forks UnhandledErrors now, before delivering the remaining.
>> As long as there is no abnormal termination, it will work just as before.
>> If any subscribers would abnormally terminate though, the ifCurtailed: kicks 
>> in, and (was supposed to) ensure delivers to remaining subscribers.
>> 
>> If something in Seaside relies on such behaviour (like terminating current 
>> process in order for subsequent subscribers to not receive the announcement) 
>> that will be broken. 
>> I don't think messing with announcement delivery should be considered a good 
>> control flow mechanism though.
>> 
>> What Esteban encountered as an error on some VM's was a pure bug I made in 
>> the ifCurtailed: block (by using after: instead of copyAfter:), and had 
>> nothing to do with forking.
>> Why some VM's considered the delivery abnormally terminated, while others 
>> didn't, I have no idea though... 
>> (The error he got only happens when the ifCurtailed block is invoked).
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Henry
> 
> Cheers,
> Doru
> 
> 
> On 9 Sep 2011, at 15:20, Sebastian Sastre wrote:
> 
>> Isn't the plain events mechanism forkless and essential to the core of the 
>> system already?
>> 
>> if you introduce that fork you break not only seaside but all artifacts of 
>> all the people that will rightly assume the current process between event 
>> and reaction is the same
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 9, 2011, at 7:13 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
>> 
>>> Igor and Stef can provide more details.
>>> 
>>> The reason for forking is that even if one announcement breaks, the others 
>>> should still be announced. Announcements are used for the functioning of 
>>> the core of the system and this means that even if you register new 
>>> objects, the core mechanisms (such as package management) should continue 
>>> to work.
>>> 
>>> It would be great if Seaside would work with these, and now depend on 
>>> another framework.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2011, at 06:38, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 2011/9/8 Esteban Lorenzano <[email protected]>:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> (yep, I'm copying tree lists because I think is a vm problem, but can be 
>>>>> a seaside problem, or a pharo problem)
>>>>> (yes, it can be MY problem too... but I don't think so... ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm having this really, really strange problem (because it was working 
>>>>> before, and I do not change anything... so, maybe a change in latest 
>>>>> changes on pharo 1.3, the version I'm using, is the cause)...
>>>> 
>>>> The announcements in the latest Pharo 1.3 don't work with Seaside
>>>> anymore. For some reason they fork them instead of running them in an
>>>> exception handler.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Philippe
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>> sebastian
>> 
>> o/
>> 
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