Thanks laurent. They are right :) I hope that the new canvas, the mini kernel, and all the rest will do it even more :)
Stef (now to bed) On Sep 21, 2011, at 10:21 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > <[email protected]> wrote: > BTW something important I forgot to say is that doing pharo is fun too and it > is fun because of the community. > And the energy we all produce and get. > > > > Some students came see me yesterday and ask: "Why don't we do more Pharo ? > We've discovered it at PharoConf and it looked cool and simple. Java is not > fun ....". > > I think Pharo change the image of Smalltalk. > > Laurent. > > > > > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > > Since I work too much I'm tired and when I'm tired I have strange thoughts > > :) > > Let us see what they are (if of any interest) > > > > I do not really know if people realize that in fact we could be payed for > > building our own private little toy > > and we could publish cool papers, looks smart and look at ourselves quite > > proudly in the mirror the morning. > > The look of the guy that accomplished his duty and is quite cool too. > > This would be a perfect life: a full life of a brillant researcher having > > fun with his little toys. Students > > of course would have fun with us and we would be a happy family. Imagine we > > could even write > > books, little books and everybody would be happy. flower, butterflies and > > the rest... > > > > Now we decided to do pharo. Why: because we want other people to be able to > > make a living out of it. > > > > I'm not sure that people deeply understand that. We do pharo (of course so > > that we can experiment crazy ideas > > but we could have probably do that better in Scheme from my experience) > > because we want others to be empowered > > and in the position of making money with it and changing/controlling their > > life because they are not forced to use > > something that they do not like. > > > > So this means that each time we spend time on it (we = the community) we > > make sure that others or the community > > can feed their kids based on our labor. For me this is a cool task and I > > enjoyed doing it even if sometimes my moral > > is low because I would like to go much much faster. > > > > You could think that we should have better done to have fun > > with our little toys and sometimes I think that yes this could be true. But > > we decided that it was more rewarding > > to build real systems with customers that are not always happy, have bugs. > > So when you have strong expectations, > > bold statements about Pharo think also that this is the simple work of > > people most of the time not payed to do it and that nicely > > share it. > > > > We know where we want to go, sometimes the system does not get the shape we > > want. but each little peebles after the other > > one we shape it. Now you can also help to make it better. > > > > Stef > > > > > > >
