On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 12:37:59AM +0000, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Eliot,
> 
> SOL??  Is that really the message we want to send to current and 
> *prospective* users?  Canonical does something that makes sense from a 
> security perspective (one needs root privileges to alter the ldconfig 
> mapping, not to to use it).  All the vm needs to do is request the 
> #moduleName as given, and users of Pharo "SOL" as a result?
> 
> Please reconsider.
> 
> Bill
> 

I think you are taking the response out of context. The actual statement
was "Then you're SOL :)  You'd need to write new support for Ubuntu."

You might take that as a gentle suggestion to expend a bit of effort
on it yourself. After all, it is open source, and Eliot is only one
person. He can't do everything for everybody without a little help
from the rest of us.

Dave


> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: [email protected] 
> [[email protected]] on behalf of Eliot Miranda 
> [[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 6:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Cog+linux: external module not found
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Nick,
> 
> Partial success.  After a false start with getting output from strace (my 
> fault), it showed me that the vm was looking a lot in the vm's directory.  A 
> symlink by the same name, allowed it to see the library.  Clearly, this is 
> not a fix, because one should not be forced to make links to any/every 
> library on the system.  However, it *was* nice to see the version string in 
> an inspector :)
> 
> Looking at the strace output (relevant parts below), it tries with prepending 
> lib, appending .so, .so.dylib.  It looks in the vm's directory, and in the 
> root directory, not /usr/lib.
> 
> It has been almost a year (based on a dated comment) since I last really 
> strained my synapses on the workings of ldconfig.  On my systems, it would 
> tell one to look for the library as follows:
> 
>     ldconfig -p | grep Acces
>     libAccesIO-USB.so (libc6) => /usr/lib/libAccesIO-USB.so
> 
> #moduleName answers 'libAccesIO-USB.so', and Ian's vm finds it.  My (and I 
> use the term LOOSELY) understanding is that Ubuntu no longer uses 
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH.  dlopen() seems to prefer that one use the names as reported 
> by ldconfig.  The best explanation I have found is that the change was a 
> security measure.
> 
> Then you're SOL :)  You'd need to write new support for Ubuntu.
> 
> 
> How does one get ldconfig to "know" where something lives?  Putting a .so 
> file in /usr/lib (and perhaps other places too) and then running ldconfig as 
> sudo appears to build a cache.  Then ldconfig -p (anyone can run this) will 
> show the map, and one can grep the result to find something specifc, as above.
> 
> Putting files in /usr/lib is a pain for things under active development.  A 
> file can live anywhere if one puts a .conf file in /etc/ld.so.confd; the 
> .conf files should contain paths to directories to be searched for .so files 
> - or at least that's how it *appears* to work.  Run ldconfig as sudo to 
> refresh the mapping, and verify with ldconfig - p.
> 
> The fix might be as simply as having the cog vm try passing the #moduleName 
> to dlopen().
> 
> Nick, thanks for the nudge in a working direction.  I will probably symlink 
> another file and see if a mix of hardware and software will get closer to 
> cooperating with me.
> 
> Bill
> 


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