Hi guys!
On 01/09/2012 09:36 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
On 09 Jan 2012, at 20:06, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
I think you have the situation very much in reverse. You are flying off the
handle, not me.
Cog deserves better than to ignore feedback from motivated users. Motivated
users deserve better than to be insulted for their efforts to improve it.
Pharo, Squeak, Cog, Seaside, and most other Smalltalk software on SqueakSource
is open source, written almost exclusively by people in their free time. And
although most of them will try to help the users of their software the best
they can, they cannot and should not do just anything unless they want to. The
relation between open source authors and their users should be mutually
productive. Using software and giving feedback if one thing, but it is not
enough. It can't be one way all the time.
I might be wrong, but I fail to find
- any issues you put in the issue tracker(s)
- any issues you solved
- any open source software you published on SqueakSource or anywhere else
- any blog post or web pages with documentation, tutorials, .. that you wrote
I hope you get the point: there are many more ways to contribute than what you
are doing now.
Pharo and other projects need all the help they can get, give back to the
community, we are all using software written by others in the same spirit, it
is only fair to honor these contributions.
My 2c,
This thread is long dead but I just wanted to mention that Wilhelm
Schwab is a long time Squeaker and has been active in the community long
before Pharo was even born. ;)
Now, it seems to me that the "heat" in this particular thread was based
on a misunderstanding, I know Eliot and it didn't seem to me he was
trying to insult.
General observation: Try taking it easy on the "what the heck have you
done for us?"-talk. I have made several such similar posts too over the
years when I got frustrated, but it might backfire if you aren't
shooting at the "right people". We take pride in being a friendly
community (Smalltalk at large) and I presume Pharo does too :)
regards, Göran
