Ok what I suggest is to
- build the smallest case so that others can understand the forces in
presence (this is what we did with Spec)
in fact we started with one button and a list.
- have a look at spec (the code is small) and how we could integrate
your ideas to it.
On Feb 5, 2012, at 12:42 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Stef,
>
> It sounds great, and I will indeed help where I can. I also have some code
> (see separate plea for help re gofer or any non-mc way to upload files) that
> might help. If you have past me in some areas, WONDERFUL.
>
> I'm on the mend from a bug last week, so I'm not 100% just yet (feeling much
> better though). More to come.
>
> Again, one thing that I would really like to see is the ability to deeply
> nest MVP triads. Layout has been the hardest part of getting that to work.
> You seem to be on good ground in terms of connecting models. MVP is tough on
> newbies (we never understood why that is), but very much worth the effort.
>
> My goal has been to create an MVP infrastructure with "just a little Seaside"
> feel to coding. Don't ask why, but I think that would be a nice fit with
> Pharo, and would allow us to defer what should be a long-term goal of making
> a view editor. With very good coding idioms, we can defer the editor w/o
> losing much (I think).
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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> On Feb 5, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
>> Stef,
>>
>> Dumb/lazy question with good intentions; what is spec? Too many code names
>> :) I should be able to at least offer guidance on MVP; I've used it to
>> great effect for years, and know the good and weak points.
>
>
> I would love that :)
>
> Spec so far:
> Models based on valueHolder
> to reuse widgets configuration AND logic
>
> declarative specification of UI
>
> Next steps
> - Support more widgets:
> - combox
> - drop box
>
> - start to rewrite most of the UI with Spec
> - file list
> - changesorter
>
> - boostrap a UI Builder
> - first steps a spec presenter
> - then a click and place
>
> - add present like prototype idea propagation
> - Get more people helping/using/...
>
> Stef
>
