On Feb 21, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Dave Mason wrote: > > On Feb 21, 2012, at 07:07, Janko Mivšek wrote: > >> - more stability, > > This is the biggest thing for me. I'm trying to get my Analysis of > Algorithms students to recognise and value a powerful environment like Pharo > Smalltalk, but some of them are experiencing so many crashes that they've > taken to entering their code in Notepad and then pasting it into Pharo!!! > This is not a strong advert for Smalltalk or Pharo.
I have may be a crash per month or so at the maximum and even in this case I'm doing something nasty. and nobody in our team experience that. Pharo is crashing less than my mac email client! You should report that as soon as you get it. > I suspect many of these crashes are stack overflows. I *thought* that > Squeak/Pharo was supposed to recognise stack overflow, but I just wrote a > method: > crash > ^self crash + 4 > and my image grew to 500+MB and then crashed. This is with Pharo 1.3 > one-click. With 1.1 one-click, I *do* get the Low space window popping up at > 516MB (although I don't appear able to do much... it doesn't even seem to > quit-no-save); I eventually did a force-quit. This is all on Mac OS X 10.6.8. really? > The 1.3 says: > VM: Mac OS - intel - 1068 - Croquet Closure Cog VM > [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog- IgorStasenko.123] 21.0 > Image: Pharo1.3 [Latest update: #13307] > > How can I get more stability? Is it time to move to 1.4? Is there something > I or my students can do to help? This is really strange. > > Thanks for everybody's efforts! > > ../Dave
