Am 22.02.2012 10:31 schrieb "Milan Mimica" <[email protected]>: > > Pharo is an IDE. IDEs don't run on tablets.
You're right so far. Principally IDEs best run on desktop computers. I tried several new concepts to develop on tablet (Bluetooth keyboard, mouse) during travels: Jens Moenig's ELEMENTS: http://www.chirp.scratchr.org/blog/?p=24 Fun seeing Smalltalk code in colored blocks, pushing them around like in EToys, generating/refactoring code. Much better designed, because of LISP + OpenGL is: http://blocky.io See the videos. Blocky makes no difference between Morphs and Code. This is pure fun, developing programs, games on tablet, and its incredibly fast! Have fun! Guido Stepken > > On 22 February 2012 10:06, Guido Stepken <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Christoph! >> >> Jobs dropped FLASH for several important reasons: >> >> 1. Too much polling in there. Processor load was high, eating up batteries. >> 2. Flash games with "onMouseOver" can't run on tablets. >> 3. Event model was so oldfashioned, that Adobe decided to drop the VM. >> >> FLASH was the most successful virtual machine ever, hundreds of thousands of applications, billions of users, dominating the whole market. >> >> Dead within only 2 years! Severe marketing and technical design mistakes by the Adobe management, IMHO. >> >> Pharo suffers similar problems: GUI is not tablet-ready. Compare to Android 4.0: Android has joined the 2.3 line for mobiles with tablet line and has invested much much brainpower in finding out, how apps can be designed, that they can comfortably be used on different resolutions, portrait as well as landscape. Well done IMHO, even suited for desktop apps. >> >> Pharo also has too much polling code, is eating up batteries as well. >> >> As long as Apple does not allow fullsized interpreters in Appstore, there is definitely no chance ever for Pharo to be brought onto tablet. >> >> I see no chances for Pharo on ARM, Tablets, whatever ... never ever! >> >> This increasing market with hundreds of millions hardware units is completely lost for Smalltalkers, once again. >> >> Tablet apps will very soon even dominate the desktop market! >> >> regards, Guido Stepken >> >> Am 22.02.2012 09:39 schrieb "Christoph Wysseier" <[email protected] >: >> >>> Dear Stef >>> >>> Am 22.02.12 08:32, schrieb Stéphane Ducasse: >>>> >>>> I'm convinced that having support for multitouch event/ genie and others works (for iPad = $$$$) is important. >>> >>> >>> Without pretending to know the future, IMHO standalone apps for tablets and mobile will disappear over time. Out of my perspective it would be far more important to move in the direction of web-based technologies also in this area. Looking at the success stories of Pharo and our own strategy I do not see the advantages of having multi-touch support for the development of such applications. >>> >>> Or did I misinterpret your intention? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Chris >>> > > > > -- > Milan Mimica > http://sparklet.sf.net
