Stef,

I can't do it this minute, but I WILL try it  - what else can a member the 
community do? :)  I'm optimistic.

THANKS!!!

Bill



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From: [email protected] 
[[email protected]] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse 
[[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 1.4 and forward (was Netstyle experience)

ok here is what I did
I took the latest nautilus green version
but it will work with the latest pharo

Then I took the configurationOfCitezen from

MCHttpRepository
        location: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/citezen/'
        user: ''
        password: ''

and I did (ConfigurationOfCitezen project version: '0.8') load: { 'NoWeb'}.

and it works.

Can you give a try?

Stef

> Stef,
>
> I will gladly try, though I thought I was using the up-to-date config.  Is 
> there maybe a stale copy in the citezen folder?   *THAT* might have fooled me 
> and caused the glitch.  Thanks for the prod.  I'll try again soon.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] 
> [[email protected]] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse 
> [[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:54 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 1.4 and forward (was Netstyle experience)
>
> On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:00 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
>> Stef,
>>
>> This:
>>
>>      Gofer new
>>              squeaksource:'MetacelloRepository';
>>              package:'ConfigurationOfCitezen';
>>              load.
>>      ( (Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfCitezen ) project version: #stable) 
>> load: { 'NoWeb'}.
>>
>> is loading Seaside.  Did I do something wrong?
>
> does not seem so
> this is really strange because I'm hacking in and on top of citizen in this 
> moment and I did get problem.
>>
>> Further, I've hit dependency warning (e.g. a 45 minute?? build stops dead in 
>> its tracks).  Complaints so far over Transcript streams and Text Morph 
>> something or other.  It finally bound up over preferences (missing message - 
>> detail later).  I tried a separate load of Seaside, but it's complaining 
>> about preferences out of the gate.
>>
>> For the "you're just complaining" crowd, I'm simply reporting what is 
>> happening.  I would very much like to see Jenkins build a 1.4 and then a 
>> 1.4+Seaside.
>
> Ok I will give a try because we migrated citizen to ss30 but we did not 
> republished the configuration in MetacelloRepository.
> can you give a try?
>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [[email protected]] on behalf of Schwab,Wilhelm K 
>> [[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:21 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 1.4 and forward (was Netstyle experience)
>>
>> Norbert,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, but I really need to get things loaded so I can 
>> load an even bigger pile of code that I have written.  There is also the 
>> question of how to capture all of the legacy data; it's not as easy as one 
>> might think, as some things are "in the wild."
>>
>> I've really used this system, and could simply hang at 1.1.1 for a long time 
>> - I'm trying to do better than that.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [[email protected]] on behalf of Norbert Hartl 
>> [[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:07 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] 1.4 and forward (was Netstyle experience)
>>
>> Am 23.02.2012 um 08:27 schrieb "Schwab,Wilhelm K" <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> Stef,
>>>
>>> Reading this is encouraging.  I have  not forgotten about 1.4, I have 
>>> simply been heavily distracted.  SIXX is a concern, as I built a lot on top 
>>> of it and (I *think*) need to get it loaded in order to evaluate Fuel vs. 
>>> it.  XML parsers are a big part of life for SIXX.  Regardless of any change 
>>> I might make, SIXX should be in the image to load "legacy" data (from last 
>>> month<g>).
>>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> is your real test to use sixx on 1.4? If you just want to test 1.4 then 
>> export your data with fuel from an 1.3 image and back into a 1.4 one. This 
>> should be pretty easy.
>>
>> Norbert
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [[email protected]] on behalf of Stéphane Ducasse 
>>> [[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:50 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Netstyle experience (was Do not feed the 
>>> trolls)
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 22.02.2012 um 13:28 schrieb Germán Arduino:
>>>>
>>>>> Example: xmlrpc died before to born, worked only in 1.1.1, now I must 
>>>>> find time to update it to zinc and 1.3 but with the fear that again will 
>>>>> not work in 1.4.
>>>>
>>>> What are your building blocks except http and xml? If you were working on 
>>>> 1.1.1 then xml parser moved quite a bit and zinc appeared on the scene. 
>>>> The changes to adopt xml parser should be minimal. Zinc provides a facade 
>>>> that mimicks backward compatibility. So you could have an easy start. But 
>>>> to be honest the situation is soooo much better with having zinc that you 
>>>> might save some time in development if you use zinc straight away.
>>>> And about 1.4: Yes, it moves a lot but zinc and xml do not. Xml is stable 
>>>> since months and the change rate in zinc is also dropping. So you might 
>>>> expect them to be available until...let's say...3 months from now. :) Ok, 
>>>> just kidding, I think the will stay similar for quite some time.
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>> Doru got **all** the moose tools in 1.4 and some of them like glamour rely 
>>> a lot on UI changes.
>>> I doubt that xmlrpc got any impacted on Morphic change. We do not change 
>>> XML (but the XML maintainers did)
>>> and Zinc is just much much much better than the old system so it should be 
>>> not difficult to adapt especially if you ask.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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