On Mar 8, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:

> Stef wrote:
>> We are getting there…
>> Did you ever look at the code of both systems?
> 
> No - not really.
> 
>> I like the ui part now
> 
> At least the videos look shiny ;)

indeed and this is what I want don't get me wrong :)

> 
>> yes we can express a model and given a spec we
>> can create a complex widget
> 
> Sounds like UI specs in VW.
kind of 

> Do we have that already?

In Spec
But we built experiments and analyze them and iterated now we know that we are 
in good direction.

> 
> However - a builder/placer should be the goal. 
> Writing specs by hand can get very complex…

Yes but one step at a time and taking care of not creating yet another layer on 
top of another layer:
        - if widgets need some special behavior it should integrated
        - ...

> 
> What I like about the videos from nullPointer is that
> it satisfies the common workflow expectation known from 
> other UI builders (VisualStudio, Java IDEs): open the builder,
> add some widgets, set some properties, double click
> a button for the event handler, add code and run.

You never modify one? i.e. reopen it and modify it?
You never reuse a widget?
Because for me I hate to have to reimplement something I already did.
This is because benjmain was fed up doing all the time the same that he is so 
interested in Spec :).

> But as you said - that says nothing about the implementation 
> under the hood.
> 
> Bye
> T.
> 
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