On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Igor Stasenko <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think that we missing a way to determine to which package some
> global belongs to.
> When you loading a package it can declare new global, but there is no
> reflective mechanisms in system to tell, to which package it belongs.
> If we could have that, then clearly, if you serialize the package, you
> would want to serialize its globals as well,
> and if not, you can just leave a reference to it, which will be
> rewired at materialization.
>

+1.  Some construct that defines a module, analogous to a class definition?


>
> On 17 April 2012 18:20, Eliot Miranda <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi guys. In Fuel, we need to identity which globals present in Smalltalk
> >> globals are NOT classes or traits, because we need to manage them as
> >> globals. So far we have a hardcoded list:
> >>
> >> defaultGlobalSymbols
> >>
> >>     ^ #(#Smalltalk #SourceFiles #Transcript #Undeclared #Display
> >> #TextConstants #ActiveWorld #ActiveHand #ActiveEvent #Sensor #Processor
> >> #ImageImports #SystemOrganization #World)
> >>
> >> So...as every hardcoded stuff, this is not nice because as soon as
> globals
> >> change, we need to fix this. So it would be nice if the system (pharo)
> can
> >> provide us this information.
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >
> >
> > What I think is that the set of globals depends on usage.  Some time I
> might
> > actually want to serialize the SourceFiles Array, sometimes I might not
> want
> > to.  So this should be configurable, with a sensible default.  Just as
> when
> > one serializes a set of classes, references to classes outside the set
> are
> > not serialized, serializing some subset of global objects in Smalltalk
> > should serialize those objects, not references.  So design some
> convenient
> > API that allows one to specify which objects are not globals, and have
> the
> > default be e.g. all global objects in Smalltalk.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mariano
> >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > best,
> > Eliot
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko.
>
>


-- 
best,
Eliot

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