for me I can understand that people want a format to exchange objects and that 
they want to use STON but
I do not understand why we need that to store metadata when a simple array 
works. Probably we love to 
load our boat with extra readers and writers.

Stef


On May 8, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:

> (The paper was indeed just updated a couple of days ago).
> 
> On 08 May 2012, at 13:29, Göran Krampe wrote:
> 
>> - In general I believe in 99% of the cases the parsing system has to know 
>> what it is parsing, how the JSON looks and how it should be mapped onto 
>> objects. Making the JSON parser itsy bitsy smarter with type annotations 
>> doesn't help me there, I still need to know that I want to instantiate a 
>> PDFPage and put this Rectangle into it - but oh, perhaps not as a Rectangle, 
>> but perhaps as two points sent into a class side instantiation message or 
>> something.
>> 
>> My point being that the type annotations doesn't "buy me" enough.
> 
> (Just for the sake of the argument, I don't want to convince you)
> 
> STON *does* buy you that: as long as we are talking about 'domain level 
> objects' (a vague notion I agree) your Smalltalk object will serialize 
> without any extra effort (see the ZnResponse example in the paper). You can 
> customize some objects if you want to (mostly for readability, sometimes to 
> fix some issue).
> 
> Object implements #toSton: and #fromSton: by iterating over the instances 
> variables.
> 
> The issues are: Blocks, Classes and the fact that ephemeral instances are 
> always serialized.
> 
> Sven
> 
> 


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