No, no, The experiment was made with the VM included in the one-click Moose, in a MacOs X 10.8. For now, I do not succeed to use the 64bit VM and build a usable 64bit image.
Jannik On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Tudor Girba <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, for Windows, 500MB is a rather hard limit with Cog. I bump into it all > the time :(. > > But, I think the experiment of Jannik was done with the special 64-bit VM. > Jannik, am I right? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 3 Aug 2012, at 15:00, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> so this means that the comment of Fabrizio about the limit of 500 mb was >> only for windows. >> >> Stef >> >> >> >>> Not bad :) >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:11 AM, jannik.laval <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:28 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:17 PM, jannik.laval wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried the VM included in Moose (moosetechnology.org). >>>>>> If I remember well, it is a cog vm. >>>>>> >>>>>> The maximal heap size is (precisely): 2138046463 bytes. >>>>>> Why this number ? I don't know. But I will need more than 2Gb. >>>>> >>>>> HI jannik >>>>> >>>>> was the system usable? >>>>> Because the problem with more memory is that you need specific GCes. >>>> >>>> It seems. >>>> I built a DSM on a 1300 packages system. >>>> >>>> Jannik >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I will try the 64bits vm, and see. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Jannik >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:51 PM, David T. Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no regression in the interpreter VM ... well actually there was >>>>>>> about 6 months back, but I keep an eye on it and it's fixed again now :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The 32-bit interpreter VM will not fail on any 2GB or 4BG boundaries, >>>>>>> and an interpreter VM compiled for the 64-bit object format can handle >>>>>>> images greater than 7GB (probably much more, but my 8GB PC is too small >>>>>>> to do anything larger). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure if all of the necessary fixes are in place for the StackVM >>>>>>> and Cog. If not, I'm sure it will be addressed over time (it's just not >>>>>>> something that I have ever checked). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe that Jannik is interested in running very large images, at >>>>>>> least on an experimental basis. For anything over a few GB, this >>>>>>> requires >>>>>>> an interpreter VM and a 64-bit image. As you know, this is sure to run >>>>>>> into problems for the garbage collector as the number of objects >>>>>>> increases, but it would certainly be interesting to see how far the >>>>>>> current garbage collector can go in real world conditions before it >>>>>>> turns to mollasses. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:57:02AM -0400, John McIntosh wrote: >>>>>>>> A few years back the interpreted virtual machine was fixed to allow an >>>>>>>> image to grow to the 4 GB limit. >>>>>>>> It is unclear to me if someone regressed the software to impose a 2GB >>>>>>>> limit >>>>>>>> again, or if the 2GB number >>>>>>>> mentioned is based on how things worked10 years ago? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:01 AM, St?phane Ducasse >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:46 PM, johnmci wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David Lewis and I spent a far amount of time a few years back to >>>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>> the 32 >>>>>>>>>> vm 4gb clean. So are you running on stale knowledge here, or does >>>>>>>>>> the vm >>>>>>>>>> crash when to goes over 2gb? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sorry my english limit does not let me know understanding what you >>>>>>>>> mean >>>>>>>>> exactly. >>>>>>>>> Jannik in the context of moose would like to see if we can have image >>>>>>>>> larger than 500 mb (on mac it should be possible). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Jannik Laval >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Jannik Laval >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" >>> >> >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "We can create beautiful models in a vacuum. > But, to get them effective we have to deal with the inconvenience of reality." > > --- Jannik Laval
